[Tfug] OK, XFCE on an older rig has lost it's mind...

Wed Nov 14 20:48:34 MST 2007

Funny you should mention that.  I downloaded gOS which is an attempt
to add Enlightenment to Ubuntu (and on sale at WalMart of all places,
on the $200 PC that sold out).  But I couldn't get it to boot on that
old IBM.  I intend to try it again on a P3 desktop.

Meanwhile, XFCE does work and I did get the panels repaired.  It
appears from poking around that the .deb packages closest to
functional on gutsy can be found at:

http://www.ebuntu.org/

...and there's a TON of warnings of the "this ain't done yet, use at
own risk" - absolutely the WRONG medicine for the newbie activist
that's going to get this laptop for free.  I've tuned XFCE to minimal
functionality, clean icon lists, etc.

Doesn't mean I'm not interested in Enlightenment and plan on doing e17
as a backup/test understudy to my current Gnome.

Jim

On Nov 14, 2007 8:11 PM, Jude Nelson <judecn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Try Enlightenment DR17.  Looks like XFCE, but it's a LOT faster and
> has better eye-candy IMHO (heck, it's pretty responsive on my PDA).
> I'm not sure if it's in Gutsy's repos yet, but there are plenty of
> mirrors online.
>
> Regards,
> Jude
>
>
> On 11/13/07, Jim March <1.jim.march at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well I just fixed XFCE's panels :).
> >
> > Solution: do an ALT-F2 and enter "xfce4-panel &" no quotes.  That
> > brings up panels - at least until next reboot.  Under
> > Settings>SessionsAndStartup select "save session on logout".  Logout.
> > Log back in and prestobingo, panels work.  Then DE-select "save
> > session on logout" so the user doesn't bork everything themselves :).
> >
> > As to OpenBSD, I don't doubt you.
> >
> > Thing is...I've got more app support in Ubuntu (as you say,
> > synaptic/apt-get ROCKS).  Ubuntu is what I personally use, and...I'm
> > trying to flat-out master it and do all my user support in it, at
> > least as much as I can.  You know?  I'm just over a year into this
> > Linux adventure, I'm learning a lot, I'm at a point where I can
> > support newbie users.
> >
> > Barely.
> >
> > If I stick with basically one system I'll be in better shape, y'know?
> > I can test stuff on my own box...and I just have the one :).
> >
> > So for now, I'm not going to delve into anything else.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Nov 13, 2007 1:28 AM, Predrag Punosevac <punosevac72 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Jim,
> > > Do not be angry at me for this comment but that computer would love
> > > OpenBSD (and this is comming from
> > > the mouth of primarelly FreeBSD user)
> > > Complete installation with X would be less then 600Mb + OpenBox
> > > + XFce-panel and fah for wall paper +
> > > application you need 1-2Gb. No FreeBSD ports just pkg_add utility to add
> > > pre-compiled OpenBSD binaries.
> > > It would take me 2-3 hours to load the crap and it would fly like a bird.
> > > Couple times I did that for my friend they thought they have a new
> > > computer.
> > >
> > > Speaking of Ubuntu I installed just as a joke 7.10 on an older PIII 650Gz,
> > > 312Mb ram and 10G hard.
> > > It really did work out of box 100% and very efficient. I really liked
> > > Sinaptic installer. It is an ideal
> > > grand-mother distro. I could not believe Opera is not a standard package.
> > >
> > > Good Luck
> > > Predrag
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:14:33 -0700, Jim March <1.jim.march at gmail.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ah.  OK, I unborked it.  CTRL-ALT-F2, got another text session with
> > > > login, did vi to change color depth back.
> > > >
> > > > OK.  Now why in hell is XFCE got dead panels?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 13, 2007 1:05 AM, Jim March <1.jim.march at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Yeah, well now I've borked it completely.  Like an idiot I tried
> > > >> setting color depth to "8" instead of "24" in xorg.conf to try and
> > > >> salvage video performance.  Oops.  Killed "X" deader'n'elvis.  And
> > > >> "rescue mode" is screwed too.
> > > >>
> > > >> Siiiigh.
> > > >>
> > > >> Screw it.  I'll load xubuntu alternate 7.10, see if that's more
> > > >> reliable than loading gnome ubuntu alternate and doing "sudo apt-get
> > > >> install xfce*" to get XFCE.  The latter trick boogered stuff up
> > > >> apparently.
> > > >>
> > > >> Grrrrrr.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jim
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Nov 13, 2007 12:40 AM, Brian Murphy <murphy at coppershadow.com> wrote:
> > > >> > Jim March wrote:
> > > >> > > I'm rebuilding an old IBM Thinkpad "iSeries" Celeron 600 critter.
> > > >> All
> > > >> > > of 192megs RAM and that appears to be peak (sigh). Trident video
> > > >> with
> > > >> > > wow, 4megs RAM!  (bleah)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sounds like a good candidate for fvwm95! :-)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > B
> > > >> >
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