[Tfug] pirates of silicon valley

Thu Sep 28 11:09:21 MST 2006

The movie is not available on Google Video, but Netflix has it. We'll 
be getting
it in about a week to see what the hullaballoo is all about.

Using lessons from B. Gates to make money seems abit, Idunno, uh, not quite
right somehow...

Perhaps a better train of consideration is why has Microsoft done so well in
developing its ubiquity, and conversely, why has Linux not developed ubiquity.

If you want to develop an OS, I would think that these questions should be
always on the mind.

Quoting Tim Ottinger <tottinge at gmail.com>:

> I think the bill lesson is twofold:
> "sell things you don't have"
> and
> "rule the distribution channels with an iron fist"
>
> The rest, I think, was luck.  But those two things were clearly hard-core
> business practices.
>
> On 9/27/06, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ever watch "pirates of silicon valley"?  I've watched it maybe 4 or 5
>> times.  Several months ago I watched it 3 times in 2 days.
>>
>> I do not know how accurate it is.
>>
>> Bill Gates.  How does one become the riches man in the world?
>>
>> I would suggest:
>> - His father was lawyer : He saw things as legal not moral.
>> - He grew up with a corporate mentality and emulated it.
>> - Salesmanship.  He was corporate minded and forced the issue.
>> - Tenacity :  I think he put in long hours and was willing to do what it
>> took.
>> - He was better at the Watergate thing than Nixon.
>> - Was and is a slave driver.  However his slaves do get compensated well.
>> - Was good at taking others ideas and making them his own.
>> - most everything he did was backwardly compatible.
>>
>> Steve Jobs while successfully was a hippie.
>> - He was a slave driver and probably still is.
>> - He was a little bazaar in how he pitted one group against another.
>> - I'm not sure he even knew about protecting his trade secrets.
>> - Far Superior superior product.
>> - At 3 or more points his product was not backwardly compatible.
>> - Failed to align himself with a big conservative company.
>> - While Superior his company is a distant 2nd at best.
>>
>> Now here is the million dollar question :
>>
>> What can I learn from this that will make me a better businessman
>> today?  (Make more Money ETC)
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> PS : I'm going to post this to several lists so you might see it somewhere
>> else.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> sitkaa at email.arizona.edu wrote: Whether or not the angry wildcat is
>> piloting the hovercraft matters far less
>> than the its crafty feral ways. A wildcat needs no hovercraft to be
>> crazed,
>> setting off a storm of excitement, rather than letting sleeping dogs lie
>> (and
>> lie, and lie, and lie). The hovercraft is only useful in destroying
>> infrastructure, about which any wildcat would care less. This cat is just
>> pissed.
>>
>> As I sat in class tonight, supposedly learning, and attempting to take
>> notes on
>> my Microsoft based laptop, I just got angrier and angrier at Bill
>> Gates, not to
>> mention the people behind him. Not only does he enforce a monopoly at
>> every
>> chance, buy politicians like all the major corporate elite, and quash
>> innovative ideas lest they compete, not only that but his programs just
>> suck.
>> They are expensive, don't work right, are loaded with bugs, spyware,
>> backdoors,
>> and they just suck.
>>
>> I just wish everyone used a Unix based system so I could too. Yes, thank
>> goodness for Bill Gates, the man who most exemplifies this century of
>> unchecked
>> competitive greed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting "Bowie J. Poag" :
>>
>> > You know, i'm not sure. Feral or not, they're still a formidable threat.
>> >
>> > I would imagine that any bobcat behind the wheel/stick/yoke of a
>> > hovercraft is either angry, or frightened. The way I picture it, the
>> > "angry" version sort of knows in a weird non-human but feline way that
>> > what it's doing amounts to an act of agression, and as such, is capable
>> > of guiding or controlling the hovercraft albeit in a haphazard manner,
>> > guiding it toward it's target--my home.. You know, bouncing off of trees
>> > and stuff, hissing and meowing, but still capable of minimal control. In
>> > the other version, the bobcat is totally freaked out since it's totally
>> > out of it's element. To a bobcat, there's nothing natural about a
>> > neighborhood, or homes, a hovercraft, or controls..So, it's just
>> > flailing around on the controls, hissing, meowing, and randomly hitting
>> > things and turning in different directions..including toward my house,
>> > up onto my lawn and hitting my house.
>> >
>> > I think we have stumbled upon one of the most frightening "feral animal
>> > + special-purpose vehicle" scenarios we are likely to ever encounter.
>> > I've thought about it....Bear + Blimp, Walrus + Ornithopter, even Bruin
>> > + Space Shuttle.....but nothing terrifies me more than Bobcat +
>> > Hovercraft. Nothing.
>> >
>> > Have the FreeBSD folks ever had to deal with this scenario? :)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Bowie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > John Gruenenfelder wrote:
>> >
>> >> Are bobcats still considered feral when piloting hovercraft?  That
>> >> would seem
>> >> to indicate a certain amount of domestication.  When you help them,
>> that
>> >> doesn't involve vehicle training, right?
>> >>
>> >> (Not to belittle you very good point, it's just that, well, bobcats +
>> >> hovercraft = funny)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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