[Tfug] pirates of silicon valley

Tim Ottinger tottinge at gmail.com
Wed Sep 27 21:01:14 MST 2006


I think the bill lesson is twofold:
"sell things you don't have"
and
"rule the distribution channels with an iron fist"

The rest, I think, was luck.  But those two things were clearly hard-core
business practices.

On 9/27/06, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ever watch "pirates of silicon valley"?  I've watched it maybe 4 or 5
> times.  Several months ago I watched it 3 times in 2 days.
>
> I do not know how accurate it is.
>
> Bill Gates.  How does one become the riches man in the world?
>
> I would suggest:
> - His father was lawyer : He saw things as legal not moral.
> - He grew up with a corporate mentality and emulated it.
> - Salesmanship.  He was corporate minded and forced the issue.
> - Tenacity :  I think he put in long hours and was willing to do what it
> took.
> - He was better at the Watergate thing than Nixon.
> - Was and is a slave driver.  However his slaves do get compensated well.
> - Was good at taking others ideas and making them his own.
> - most everything he did was backwardly compatible.
>
> Steve Jobs while successfully was a hippie.
> - He was a slave driver and probably still is.
> - He was a little bazaar in how he pitted one group against another.
> - I'm not sure he even knew about protecting his trade secrets.
> - Far Superior superior product.
> - At 3 or more points his product was not backwardly compatible.
> - Failed to align himself with a big conservative company.
> - While Superior his company is a distant 2nd at best.
>
> Now here is the million dollar question :
>
> What can I learn from this that will make me a better businessman
> today?  (Make more Money ETC)
>
> Keith
>
> PS : I'm going to post this to several lists so you might see it somewhere
> else.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> sitkaa at email.arizona.edu wrote: Whether or not the angry wildcat is
> piloting the hovercraft matters far less
> than the its crafty feral ways. A wildcat needs no hovercraft to be
> crazed,
> setting off a storm of excitement, rather than letting sleeping dogs lie
> (and
> lie, and lie, and lie). The hovercraft is only useful in destroying
> infrastructure, about which any wildcat would care less. This cat is just
> pissed.
>
> As I sat in class tonight, supposedly learning, and attempting to take
> notes on
> my Microsoft based laptop, I just got angrier and angrier at Bill
> Gates, not to
> mention the people behind him. Not only does he enforce a monopoly at
> every
> chance, buy politicians like all the major corporate elite, and quash
> innovative ideas lest they compete, not only that but his programs just
> suck.
> They are expensive, don't work right, are loaded with bugs, spyware,
> backdoors,
> and they just suck.
>
> I just wish everyone used a Unix based system so I could too. Yes, thank
> goodness for Bill Gates, the man who most exemplifies this century of
> unchecked
> competitive greed.
>
>
>
> Quoting "Bowie J. Poag" :
>
> > You know, i'm not sure. Feral or not, they're still a formidable threat.
> >
> > I would imagine that any bobcat behind the wheel/stick/yoke of a
> > hovercraft is either angry, or frightened. The way I picture it, the
> > "angry" version sort of knows in a weird non-human but feline way that
> > what it's doing amounts to an act of agression, and as such, is capable
> > of guiding or controlling the hovercraft albeit in a haphazard manner,
> > guiding it toward it's target--my home.. You know, bouncing off of trees
> > and stuff, hissing and meowing, but still capable of minimal control. In
> > the other version, the bobcat is totally freaked out since it's totally
> > out of it's element. To a bobcat, there's nothing natural about a
> > neighborhood, or homes, a hovercraft, or controls..So, it's just
> > flailing around on the controls, hissing, meowing, and randomly hitting
> > things and turning in different directions..including toward my house,
> > up onto my lawn and hitting my house.
> >
> > I think we have stumbled upon one of the most frightening "feral animal
> > + special-purpose vehicle" scenarios we are likely to ever encounter.
> > I've thought about it....Bear + Blimp, Walrus + Ornithopter, even Bruin
> > + Space Shuttle.....but nothing terrifies me more than Bobcat +
> > Hovercraft. Nothing.
> >
> > Have the FreeBSD folks ever had to deal with this scenario? :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bowie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Gruenenfelder wrote:
> >
> >> Are bobcats still considered feral when piloting hovercraft?  That
> >> would seem
> >> to indicate a certain amount of domestication.  When you help them,
> that
> >> doesn't involve vehicle training, right?
> >>
> >> (Not to belittle you very good point, it's just that, well, bobcats +
> >> hovercraft = funny)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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