[Tfug] And another one down

[Timothy D. Lenz]

So I think I'm down to 1 of these 2: 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=ppssHGSTenterprise&bop=And&CompareItemList=14|22-136-798^22-136-798-TS%2C22-145-420^22-145-420-TS%2C22-136-533^22-136-533-TS&percm=22-145-420%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24

Mainly the HGST and the enterprise WD. The WD has a 5 year warranty

On 9/9/2013 10:45 PM, Harry McGregor wrote:
> On 9/9/13 10:22 PM, Timothy D. Lenz wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/2013 10:07 PM, Harry McGregor wrote:
>>> On 9/9/13 9:52 PM, Timothy D. Lenz wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> If the Seagates were not "array" optimized drives, then they quite
>>> likely were going into thermal recalibration, which takes the drive
>>> offline for a few seconds and brings it back.
>>>
>>> My personal opinion, dealing with thousands of drives, is that I really
>>> like the HGST drives, and don't care much for Seagate anymore (and this
>>> is enterprise class, near line sas and enterprise sata).  After HGST, I
>>> go for WD SAS, then WD Black, then Red.  I don't like either the Blue or
>>> the Green for array use.
>>>
>>> As far as the fans causing problems, I have seen some VERY odd things
>>> cause drive problems, but have yet to see fans cause it...
>>>
>>> (and yes, I deal with enterprise storage as part of my job).
>>>
>>> -Harry
>>
>> I don't think I have ever heard of an HGST drive, but a quick google
>> found a 600Gb drive for $400... OUCH.
>
> HGST is what used to be Hitachi Global Storage Technologies, which
> before that was IBM's drive division.  HGST is now owned by WD, but
> operated as a separate company due to restrictions the Chinese
> government put on the merger.
>
> They are not all that expensive, you were probably looking at a 10K or
> 15K SAS drive for that range.
>
> Here is a 1TB ultrastar with 3 year warranty for $85:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145420
>>
>> I just noticed that WD has other drives now besides the
>> red/green/black/blue. Haven't looked into then much. But looking at
>> WD's site: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/catalog/
>>
>> I don't see an SAS line. Why black before red? I thought red was
>> designed for array use.
>
> The WD Xe line is SAS, and the WD Re line has some SAS drives.  The
> black vs red is more speed vs array optimized.  The Blacks are supported
> in consumer level arrays, and are 7200 RPM, the Reds are "intellipower"
> which means they are in the 5900 RPM range.
>
> Of course SAS will only help you if you have SAS Controllers, which most
> consumer level boards and small NAS appliances don't have.
>
> Here is a 2TB WD RE SAS drive:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236502
>
>
>>
>>   And yea, just reading on the green, I haven't given them another
>> thought.
>>
> :)
>
> -Harry