[Tfug] Cyber War -oh noes

[Joshua Zeidner]

  at this point in time, there is little justification for the h1b
visa program.  Make no mistakes folks, your jobs are being used as
bargaining chips in the political process.

  -jmz

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Tim Ottinger <tottinge at gmail.com> wrote:
> Because we are consumers of people, and there is more money in brokering
> already-skilled people than prodicing skilled people.
>
> I find that some schools are consumers of already-good-students rather than
> producers of them. Appparently if you aren't a born test-taker, you've got
> small chance of making it. A high school teacher told me that only the honor
> role students are worth her time.
>
> As a result perfectly good, bright people are left and lost and inexpensive
> replacements are shipped in.
>
> Capitalist consumerism is harsh when your merchandise is encumbered with a
> pesky soul.
>
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> ________________________________
> From: keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: January 07, 2009 6:54 PM
> To: Tucson Free Unix Group <tfug at tfug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tfug] Cyber War -oh noes
>
> Failing the brightest was one of my arguments
> against H1B Visas a while back.
>
> Why does bill gates import labor.  Why has he not used his wealth
> and influence to identify the brightest and put them in an
> environment where they can be challenged beyond anything anyone
> of us would have ever expected.
>
> We are failing ourselves!
>
> Why do we fail to identify, mentor, and push, while providing for
> these people?
>
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> Keith Smith
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> --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Glen Pfeiffer <glen at thepfeiffers.net> wrote:
>
> From: Glen Pfeiffer <glen at thepfeiffers.net>
> Subject: Re: [Tfug] Cyber War -oh noes
> To: tfug at tfug.org
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 5:33 PM
>
> On Wed Jan 07, 2009 at 03:38:52PM -0800, Bexley Hall wrote:
>> How many folks can't "count change"?  Or, form a
> "correct"
>> sentence?  (or, write wItHoUt *abusing* punctuation!!  :> )
>>
>> How many *question* what they are "told"?  How many know
>> how to find their own "answer"?  :-/
>>
>> <shrug>  Dunno.  Perhaps it is attributable to people having
>> "less time" (?  then, where did all that time *go*?).
>
> I think there are many possible causes, and likely more than one
> actual cause, for what you are describing. One might be that
> those who were once uneducated now have a middle or high school
> education and are able to contribute more to society. But they
> are still unable to perform at the level you expect.
>
> You might have
>  noticed that I listed a high school education
> above. That is because at the same time we are "not leaving any
> child behind" we are failing t
>
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