[Tfug] Semi-off-topic...a good quote of mine made the AZ Star...

[Jim March]

Oh for God's sake.  Stupidity is apparently contagious.

SIGH.

Eric, my final word on all this, is that you need to learn to figure
out whether or not a given website is credible.  I've given you a
basic primer.  It's about proof.  No proof, it's BS.

Jim

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:58 AM, eric christian <ericdanc at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> Jim March schrieb:
>
>> Your problem here is that I speak just enough paranoid conspiracy
>> nutcase (which is it's own dialect at a minimum) to know EXACTLY what
>> goes through your pea-brain when you see George Washington make a
>> favorable reference to "Illuminati".
> oh dear, GW calls them diabolical. Look up "diabolical" in a dictionary.
> I dont think thats a "favorable reference".
>>
>> Sorry, but that's just an old Mason term for "high level Freemason
>> geek".  They don't use it much anymore or so I'm told, mainly because
>> it makes paranoid conspiracy nutcases have conspiro-gasms every time
>> they see the word.
> I know all degrees of The Scottish Rite and all orders of the York Rite.
> There is no Illuminati there, not at all,nada, they were a totally
> separate group, founded 1776 by the Jesuit (mason, converted Jew) Adam
> Wishaupt in Ingolstadt.
>>
>> EVERYTHING you point to says that you consider masons evil.  This is
>> just another example, same as "the founder of the JWs and Mormons have
>> to be conspiring because they were both masons".
>>
> I point to a text of FF GW nothing more. I state nothing, nada.
>> So YOU read it: "Washington defends Freemasonry".  Yeah, big shock
>> there, not...again, see also the dollar bill, to this day crowded with
>> Mason symbols.  My whole point is, "so what?"
> FF GW warned us about the Illuminati. Also interesting is that, he says,
> the Democratic Party was created by the Illuminati.
>>
>> Because you haven't proven, and can't prove, that "Freemason=evilbarsterd".
>>
> In these matters no one can prove anything. I give you again a text from
> our founding father George Washington and paraphrase at the end his
> language of over 200 years. I say nothing, George Washington does.He
> warns us against the Illuminati and says the mason lodges as such were
> not infected by the Illuminati, just individuals (Jefferson implied
> since he was a founder of thias Democratic Society).
>
> Am i missing something here? Are you against George Washington? It's
> hard to discuss this with you. Are you an American? My ancestors fought
> 1776. Where were yours? with King Georg? Georg was Welf from Hannover...
>
>> Washington Defends Freemasonry
>>
>> Letter of George Washington to George Washington Snyder, October 24, 1798
>>
>> The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources,
>> 1745-1799.
>> John C. Fitzpatrick, Editor.--vol. 36
>> Mount Vernon, October 24, 1798.
>> Revd Sir: I have your favor of the 17th. instant before me; and my only
>> motive to trouble you with the receipt of this letter, is to explain,
>> and correct a mistake which I perceive the hurry in which I am obliged,
>> often, to write letters, have led you into.
>>
>> It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati,
>> and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the
>> contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am.
>>
>> The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the
>> Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to
>> propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles
>> of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals
>> of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to
>> found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these
>> objects; and actually had a seperation of the People from their
>> Government in view, is too evident to be questioned.
>>
>> My occupations are such, that but little leisure is allowed me to read
>> News Papers, or Books of any kind; the reading of letters, and preparing
>> answers, absorb much of my time. With respect, etc.
>>
>> ----------------
>> In other words, FF Washington claims FF's Jefferson's "Democratic
>> Society (later: Party)" was founded by Illuminati, Jefferson among
>> others since he was the key founder. This jives with other sources
>> stating that Jefferson actually met Weishaupt in his (Jefferson's)
>> european travels and became himself an illuminatus. See how the pieces
>> just fall together? EC
>
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