[Tfug] religious nutcakes

Sat Jul 12 19:14:03 MST 2008

So who the hell are you, John Mc?

Looks like some retireee from Las Vegas who started posting 
in March 2008. If so, I look forward to your Linux posts.
The flames list has been dead for a long time. Unless you 
care to post there, why are you telling anyone else where to 
post?

P.S are you the John Mc Neill from Lost Wages who made these 
contributions to Chris Fraud and John Smegmawards?

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=Mcneill&fname=John

For equal time, I will denounce John Mc Lame.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Mc" <jmcneill2 at earthlink.net>
To: <flames at tfug.org>; <tfug at tfug.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Tfug] religious nutcakes

> Some suggestions.
>
> It appears the posters here are more fervent with their 
> religious views than even their politics. I checked the 
> flames archives when I signed on and I believe this will 
> be the first entry since October, 2004. I am guessing this 
> is the most complete, recent entry on the subject. I spell 
> checked the post to make it more readable. Moving posts 
> like this to the Flames list may seriously degrade the 
> total number of readings we get, but so it goes. People 
> haven't been posting Linux related things very much 
> recently.
>
> Another list I was on used the term "Unleashed" for non 
> Linux related posts. We actually had quite a few signed up 
> for that one, but still there weren't that many total 
> posts. It was used for more than just religion and 
> politics. Interesting articles that didn't fit the 
> Linux/Computer category were posted there and got replies. 
> The word "Flames" kind of turns people off since no one 
> really wants to read flames. Also, the "Flames" list isn't 
> available as an option on the sign up pages. I had to read 
> between the lines to subscribe. You all need to make that 
> (or its successor) much more easily accessible. I don't 
> know how many list members are signed up for the Flames 
> list.
>
> Setting up separate lists for "Religious", "Political" and 
> "Other" may also be an option. I tolerate most of your 
> posts since you guys at least know how to spell, etc. Some 
> of the politcal rants (except my own, of course) are off 
> the mark and the religious posts even more so. But, I 
> learn which way the wind blows through your minds.
>
> This subject (Re: [Tfug] religious nutcakes) is being 
> moved to the Flames list (or its successor). Please make 
> all replies from that list.
>
> John Mc
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [Tfug] religious nutcakes
>>Michael Omar Gatto wrote:
> Meh, I served in Afghanistan as a Marine. I'd hate to nuke 
> it since there were a lot of fine people there and the 
> food is damn good, too. I don't like my curries 
> radioactive, mind you...
>
> I said the tribal areas, didn't I? that's where the 
> Taliban are attacking us from. Its like the SS went to 
> Liechtenstein 1945 and attacked German cities in the 
> 1950s.
>
> Oh, and as a Persian linguist I don't consider most 
> Muslims as nutcakes and although I personally find some 
> Egyptians rather annoying sometimes (used to be married to 
> one) it doesn't automatically make them assholes or 
> terrorists, me thinks. Rumor has it that UA holds academic 
> conferences and people, apparently (gasp!) sometimes fly 
> in just for a day to score brownie points by saying they 
> attended...
>
> - Mike Gatto
> +
>
>>eric christian wrote:
> Well, that's just fine. Then you can explain to us the 
> Persian concept of "ketman" (Arabian "taqiya"). I do 
> consider Moslems as nutcakes because of their concept of 
> "tauchid" (please excuse the German spelling, i know that 
> its spelled otherwise in English "wahid", whatever, but i 
> forget). Tauchid is the essence of Islam. Tauchid is the 
> reason why musselmen hate the west (us). In the West we 
> have this plurality, social life here, private life there, 
> religion here, government there and so forth. Not so for 
> the musselman, there is only one thing, Islam (tauchid). 
> Europe had this tauchid brain damage in the Dark Ages, it 
> was called
>
>                            "Consensus fidelium"
>
> See, goddammit. I don't care about religion or tauchid or 
> Moslems and all this bullshit. But they keep attacking us. 
> This is just a waste of time. lets go back to Linux, 
> dammit.  Eric
> +
>
>>Jude Nelson wrote:
> Eric,
>
> You will find in this world that less than 1% of Muslims 
> are "nutcakes".  Just like any mainstream religion, there 
> will always be small ultraconservative groups within it 
> that give every other follower a bad name.  Should I think 
> that all Christians are nutcakes because a few of them 
> kill homosexuals and abortion doctors, or wear white robes 
> and set crosses on fire?  Should I think that all Jews are 
> nutcakes because a few of them want to ethnically cleanse 
> Palestine? Should I think that all Hindus are nutcakes 
> because a few of them try to occasionally burn down 
> Christian churches?  Of course not--it's false induction. 
> Likewise, not all Muslims are "nutcakes" just because a 
> few of them happen to be terrorists.
>
> Regards,  Jude
> +
>
>>Ronald Sutherland wrote:
> K
> I've been drinking some wine...
>
> I find that GUN and Open Source is every bit a religion 
> except, there is a large number of resent converts, and 
> resent converts are the most dangerous, although I'm not 
> sure why. It could be that they know so little of all the 
> edge cases that complicate the religion. This suggests to 
> me that Iraq is going to be a huge problem on so many 
> levels.
>
> Most people assume that man is in the image of god, but 
> how do we know that is true. It places restrictions on the 
> very nature and boundaries of god. It may even break one 
> of the commandments, as in praying though an image or idol 
> of god that is possibly false. I do not presume to know 
> god well enough to place myself in god's image. Atheist 
> take the easy way out and nuke the possibility of god's 
> existence, so they don't have to deal with the rather 
> complex possibility that god exist but is far more than 
> their pathetic monkey brain can deal with.
>
> Anyway, keep up the good work tfug, I enjoy the BS when I 
> have a chance to read it.
>
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