[Tfug] ubuntu

Wed Apr 23 11:52:34 MST 2008

http://www.u.arizona.edu/~sitkaa/Extra%20Stuff/TFUG%20Temp.html

Quoting sitkaa at email.arizona.edu:

> I post to TFUG to bask in the panegyric.
>
> For what it worth, I spent ~$450 on the T41. It was cheap because the guy had
> loaded linux on it, and then couldn't figure out how to remove it. It
> came with
> an XP COA, and was still in warrenty, so I talked IBM into sending me some
> disks, and managed to remove linux (if I remember that took me about
> three days
> of learning to figure out how to do - at the time I was not on an LUG list).
> After installing XP, I wanted to do a dual boot, but couldn't figure out how,
> so ultimately the Linux CD found its way into the dust bin.
>
> I did use the warranty, too. I had to replace the DVD drive. 
> Additionally, the
> kind folks at IBM (Lenovo) helped me immensely several times in getting the
> machine to work right. Yes, it was at times a pain the backside, but at
> least I
> had somewhere to go if it ceased to work completely. This was one of
> the factors
> which made buying another IBM an easier choice (for me). By the time the
> incidental wardrobe malfunction occurred, the machine was out of warranty.
>
> However, you are right. I coulda spent twice as much on my next machine, and
> just had it work perfectly all the time. (Like what linux could do.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting William Stott <WStott at ventanamed.com>:
>
>> So, what I take from this is that you spent ~$1400 [TWICE] on IBM products
>> that you say met your needs, but did not REALLY meet your needs because you
>> need a ŒNIX¹ environment that takes no effort to install, has a pretty GUI,
>> and some type of support for when you break it...so in the end:
>>
>> Cost: ~$2800
>> Needs Met: NONE
>> Frustration: HIGH
>>
>> When you had the chance to purchase a Mac for $2700 that did everything you
>> wanted from the start...
>>
>> Makes sense to me. This thread is like going to Walmart...
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>> On 4/23/08 10:07 AM, "sitkaa at email.arizona.edu" <sitkaa at email.arizona.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The reason I haven't bought a Mac:
>>>
>>> When my T41 refused to survive an emotional outburst with a 22 oz. framing
>>> hammer, I priced out Apple, Dell, IBM (Lenovo), Gateway, Toshiba, Sony, and
>>> probably more. I liked the Apples but they were so expensive. I had
>>> a list of
>>> features I wanted, and I could get them in $2700 Apples, $1800 Dells, $2500
>>> Sonys and Toshibas... I didn't really want to buy a Chinese product,
>>> but I got
>>> a line on a special from IBM (Lenovo). The computer I wanted could be had
>>> $1400.
>>>
>>> In the end, there were two choices really: Dell and IBM.
>>>
>>> The Dell are still pretty groovy looking, but to be honest, I
>>> couldn't give a
>>> flying leap how it looks, only that it works. And the T61p is so 
>>> much better
>>> built than any of the others, I expected it to be at least as 
>>> durable as the
>>> T41 it replaces.
>>>
>>> I broke the handle of the framing hammer in the last 'episode', so it
>>> no longer
>>> threatens a laptop that doesn't work right.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting William Stott <WStott at ventanamed.com>:
>>>
>>>> > Did you buy a Mac yet?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 4/22/08 11:04 PM, "sitkaa at email.arizona.edu"
>>>> <sitkaa at email.arizona.edu>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>>> >> Great guys (and gals),
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Glad it is easy for you.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I haven't had the same experience except when all I was doing was a
>>>>> straight
>>>>> >> boot without considering the functions of the laptop. Linux is
>>>>> >> getting easier
>>>>> >> to install, which is a welcome trend.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Quoting christopher <skeptikos at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> How difficult is it to put a CD in the CDR drive and reboot?
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> > Harder than you might think. My cdrom doesn't like to
>>>>>>> >>> > open and every time I want to use it I have to use a
>>>>>>> >>> > straightened paper clip to stick in that hole and open
>>>>>>> >>> > it.
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> > Sorry, I couldn't help it. It's true though :)
>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>> >>> > --
>>>>>>> >>> > christopher <skeptikos at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >>> >
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