[Tfug] ubuntu

Wed Apr 23 10:54:13 MST 2008

I post to TFUG to bask in the panegyric.

For what it worth, I spent ~$450 on the T41. It was cheap because the guy had
loaded linux on it, and then couldn't figure out how to remove it. It 
came with
an XP COA, and was still in warrenty, so I talked IBM into sending me some
disks, and managed to remove linux (if I remember that took me about 
three days
of learning to figure out how to do - at the time I was not on an LUG list).
After installing XP, I wanted to do a dual boot, but couldn't figure out how,
so ultimately the Linux CD found its way into the dust bin.

I did use the warranty, too. I had to replace the DVD drive. Additionally, the
kind folks at IBM (Lenovo) helped me immensely several times in getting the
machine to work right. Yes, it was at times a pain the backside, but at 
least I
had somewhere to go if it ceased to work completely. This was one of 
the factors
which made buying another IBM an easier choice (for me). By the time the
incidental wardrobe malfunction occurred, the machine was out of warranty.

However, you are right. I coulda spent twice as much on my next machine, and
just had it work perfectly all the time. (Like what linux could do.)

Quoting William Stott <WStott at ventanamed.com>:

> So, what I take from this is that you spent ~$1400 [TWICE] on IBM products
> that you say met your needs, but did not REALLY meet your needs because you
> need a ŒNIX¹ environment that takes no effort to install, has a pretty GUI,
> and some type of support for when you break it...so in the end:
>
> Cost: ~$2800
> Needs Met: NONE
> Frustration: HIGH
>
> When you had the chance to purchase a Mac for $2700 that did everything you
> wanted from the start...
>
> Makes sense to me. This thread is like going to Walmart...
>
> Will
>
>
> On 4/23/08 10:07 AM, "sitkaa at email.arizona.edu" <sitkaa at email.arizona.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> The reason I haven't bought a Mac:
>>
>> When my T41 refused to survive an emotional outburst with a 22 oz. framing
>> hammer, I priced out Apple, Dell, IBM (Lenovo), Gateway, Toshiba, Sony, and
>> probably more. I liked the Apples but they were so expensive. I had 
>> a list of
>> features I wanted, and I could get them in $2700 Apples, $1800 Dells, $2500
>> Sonys and Toshibas... I didn't really want to buy a Chinese product, 
>> but I got
>> a line on a special from IBM (Lenovo). The computer I wanted could be had
>> $1400.
>>
>> In the end, there were two choices really: Dell and IBM.
>>
>> The Dell are still pretty groovy looking, but to be honest, I 
>> couldn't give a
>> flying leap how it looks, only that it works. And the T61p is so much better
>> built than any of the others, I expected it to be at least as durable as the
>> T41 it replaces.
>>
>> I broke the handle of the framing hammer in the last 'episode', so it
>> no longer
>> threatens a laptop that doesn't work right.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting William Stott <WStott at ventanamed.com>:
>>
>>> > Did you buy a Mac yet?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 4/22/08 11:04 PM, "sitkaa at email.arizona.edu" 
>>> <sitkaa at email.arizona.edu>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>>> >> Great guys (and gals),
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Glad it is easy for you.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I haven't had the same experience except when all I was doing was a
>>>> straight
>>>> >> boot without considering the functions of the laptop. Linux is
>>>> >> getting easier
>>>> >> to install, which is a welcome trend.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Quoting christopher <skeptikos at gmail.com>:
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>>> >> How difficult is it to put a CD in the CDR drive and reboot?
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Harder than you might think. My cdrom doesn't like to
>>>>>> >>> > open and every time I want to use it I have to use a
>>>>>> >>> > straightened paper clip to stick in that hole and open
>>>>>> >>> > it.
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Sorry, I couldn't help it. It's true though :)
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > --
>>>>>> >>> > christopher <skeptikos at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> >
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