[Tfug] OT Politics: [TFUG] Bank of America e-mail

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From: "Jeffry Johnston" <>
To: "Tucson Free Unix Group" <tfug at tfug.org>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Tfug] [TFUG] Bank of America e-mail


>I got my license (AZ) in 1996, and was given the choice
>between SSN and
> another number, so of course I chose another number.  I
> think this is why
> some forms want both your drivers license number and
> SSN... because they can
> be different.
>
> Here is a video about being a true patriot, the real ID is
> mentioned (not in
> a positive light :).. it's a great speech:
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul388.html
>
> Jeff

When saying "true patriot", I would call that a
libertarian-style definition of patriot.

>From the speech:
The true patriot is motivated by a sense of responsibility
and out of self-interest for himself, his family, and the
future of his country to resist government abuse of power.
He rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the
state.

Consider that as opposed to a dictionary definition of
patriotism:
one who loves his or her country and supports its authority
and interests
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/patriot

As I read it, Paul's patriotic motivation stems from self
interest and the antithesis of a dictionary definition of
patriotism.

Don't mistake my making distinctions as criticism. At least
Llewellyn, Ron Paul and other libertarians are honest about
their self motivation.

IMO, the biggest phonies are leftists who proclaim
allegiance to "the workers", "the people", or for "the
greater good"

> On Nov 23, 2007 10:21 AM, George Cohn <> wrote:
>
>> keith smith wrote:
>> > I do not know if it is still illegal to identify
>> > someone by their SS#.
>>  While in the military over 30 years ago we were given
>> the option of not
>> using our SS# as an id.  The law at that time stated a
>> SS# was to identify
>> you with the Social Security department only.
>> >
>> > I personally would refuse to do business with anyone
>> > wanting to use my
>> SS# as my ID number.
>> >
>>
>> Up until a few years ago, Pima Community College used
>> your SSN as an ID
>> number.  They have since changed to a number that begins
>> with an A and
>> has nothing in common with the SSN.  Same for the AZ
>> drivers license.
>>
>> George Cohn