[Tfug] Creationist Museum

Mon May 28 12:45:54 MST 2007

On 5/28/07, Benjamin Krein <superbenk at superk.org> wrote:
>
> I guess I find it "amusing" that you fail to see how 1) this is
> off-topic for this list and 2) may be possibly construed as derogatory
> towards one side of the debate.

1.)  If you're complaining that my post is so off-topic, why don't you point
that out to other posters who do the exact same thing?
2.)  ANYTHING can be seen as derogatory from at least one perspective.  I
find it derogatory that you are only interested in telling ME to shut up,
and ignoring other posters who do the EXACT SAME THING.

I saw the original link at Slashdot two days ago.

Anyhow, my original response had nothing to do with #2 and only with #1
> because I saw this easily becoming exactly the thread it has become.
>
> Ben
>
> Jude Nelson wrote:
> > Nowhere in that post did I explicitly call anyone a dummy.  I just found
> it
> > amusing, because I had never heard of nor seen them before and it never
> > occurred to me that any existed.  To me, its "predictable" location in
> > Kentucky just means that if one were to exist, it would make sense that
> it
> > would exist in an area of the US where Creationism is particularly
> strong.
> > As far as its depiction of humans and dinosaurs (and dragons, as well)
> > coexisting goes, I find it amusing because it is non-traditional (not
> > necessarily stupid or backward; it's just that I didn't expect it to
> happen,
> > and thus I'm amused).
> >
> > To point out that the Creationist camp has failed to add ID (or similar)
> to
> > the public school scientific curriculum is to point out an obvious fact.
> > Because the number of Creationists in Kentucky is statistically higher
> than
> > average, it makes sense that more parents in Kentucky would want schools
> to
> > present the ID hypothesis alongside evolution.  If you read the museum
> > description, you'll find its parking lot has been specifically designed
> to
> > facilitate school-bus loading and unloading. Because the current court
> > ruling is that the presentation of ID in the classroom is a violation of
> the
> > First Amendment, this feature leads me to believe that one of the
> purposes
> > of this museum is to make it easier for schools to present the ID
> hypothesis
> > to students without explicitly making it part of the curriculum.  It
> makes
> > sense that field trips to this museum would be encouraged by parents to
> > circumvent the ruling and allow their children to learn of ID in
> > school-related activities.  Hence the explanation of my previous
> statement
> > that "It seems that the political battle to inject Intelligent Design
> into
> > public schools has been thwarted enough that someone put up $27 million
> to
> > build a Creationist-oriented history museum..."
> >
> > Also, if you look at the pictures of the museum, the interior DOES look
> > cool.
> >
> > Seriously, now, why is everyone jumping the gun here?  If I were to post
> a
> > link to a museum depicting the history of ear wax sculptures, would
> everyone
> > be as offended?  I would be just as amused by an ear wax museum as a
> > Creationist history museum, and for the same reasons--it's unexpected,
> and
> > it never would have occurred to me.  I tend to laugh at things that are
> > unexpected and/or do not occur to me, regardless of what they are.  I
> even
> > chuckled at Sony's new flexible LCD screen prototype for those reasons!
> > Who'd have thought that computer screens might one day be like paper
> > sheets?  Amusing, no?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jude Nelson
> >
> > PS  If you think I'm bad, you see Felix Tilley's posts!
> >
> > On 5/27/07, Neil Short <neshort at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> --- rlumpy <rlumpy at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can see it now, on "South Park"
> >>>
> >>> Linus battles Bill Gates for Cartman's Soul
> >>>
> >>> Rich L.
> >>>
> >>> Benjamin Krein wrote:
> >>>> Jude Nelson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Okay, it's off-topic, but extremely funny.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> www.creationmuseum.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It seems that the political battle to inject
> >>> Intelligent Design into public
> >>>>> schools has been thwarted enough that someone put
> >>> up $27 million to build a
> >>>>> Creationist-oriented history museum that goes so
> >>> far as to depict humans and
> >>>>> dinosaurs co-existing.  Supposedly the interior
> >>> design was done by a major
> >>>>> Hollywood set designer (the guy who did Jaws, I
> >>> think), so at least it
> >>>>> *looks* cool.  This museum is located,
> >>> predictably, in Kentucky.
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Jude Nelson
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> >>>> Uh.  What possibly makes this appropriate for this
> >>> list?  Are we to
> >>>> discuss politics next as well?  Maybe I'm the only
> >>> one, but this seems
> >>>> like a very in-appropriate post for a
> >>> computer-centric list no matter
> >>>> what position you take on the subject.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want to discuss religion topics, stick to
> >>> Apple vs. PC; Linux vs.
> >>>> Windows vs. OS X, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben
> >>>>
> >> Computer topics is why I'm here. I don't appreciate
> >> being labeled "dummy" because I believe in the
> >> Biblical presentation of creation - and am also a
> >> computer geek and a mathematician....
> >>
> >> I could go on; but yes, it is off topic.
> >>
> >> ======
> >> Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the King of heaven,
> for
> >> all his works are truth, and his ways are justice; and he is able to
> bring
> >> low those who walk in pride.
> >> Daniel 4:37
> >>
> >>
> >>
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