[Tfug] Our website: Round three

[Glen Pfeiffer]

On 04/27/2007 10:41 AM, johngalt1 wrote:
> On 04/27/2007 10:09 AM, Robert Hunter wrote:
>> Glen, I wouldn't interpret what John is saying as a personal
>> attack. He only asked whether "you or EriCH" had contributed
>> anything, etc. This was in response to your previous statement
>> that people should contact "myself or Erich" about
>> contributing, etc.  I'm assuming that most of what he said was
>> not directed at you.
>
> Precisely. The phrase "contact myself or Erich about
> contributing" rather than "Jon and/or Tyler" caught my
> attention.

Fair enough, I won't take it personally. My reason for saying
"contact myself or Erich off-line" was so that we could put
together a proposal on what we would like to change. It doesn't
make sense to bother You and/or Tyler (or anyone on the list
that does not wish to contribute) until we have specific changes
in mind. So having a few of us take the discussion off-line makes
the most sense to me.

> When I look at the FUGGING website and compare it to the
> criticism, the fuss is unwarranted, IMO.

I agree that the *FUSS* is unwarranted. But I would like to see
some updated content. And if the group decides they want an area
for user contributions, I would be in favor of that too (with
some restrictions).

> What is not apparent to people who live in urban jungle places
> like outside DC, is the T-shirt, shorts and flip-flop
> environment here in Tucson.

I have lived here in Tucson (actually Marana, Continental Ranch)
for a couple years now. Like I said, my website is sorely
outdated. :-P

I am very familiar with the T-shirt, shorts and flip-flop
environment. In fact, that is one reason I am here. In Northern
Virginia I went to work barefoot; I didn't fit in there. ;-)

> That's why I am taking a deep breath and relaxing.

I am not agitated, excited, mad, or nervous. So maybe I am weird,
but I still find it condescending to tell someone else to take a
deep breath and relax. But maybe I am just permanently scarred by
my parents somehow. ;-)

I simply wanted to help get things moving in the right direction,
and I saw that the discussion on the list was not working. I
contacted Erich off-line in hopes that we could take the next step
and use a process that I think will work better. Here is a copy
of my email to Erich so you will know what I had in mind.

> Hi Erich,
>
> I am willing to help out with the site. I build web sites and
> web based applications for a living. I don't necessarily want to
> spend a lot of time on it b/c I am pretty busy, but can
> contribute some. At the least I can help get us moving in the
> right direction since that seems to be a sticking point right
> now.
>
> I think the best way to start is to meet with everyone who is
> willing to contribute. We can brainstorm and evaluate ideas until
> we come up with what we think is the best approach. Then we
> should present it to the list for feedback/approval. The
> feedback/approval process might take a while given the democratic
> nature of the group, so it's best that we document the results of
> our evaluations and provide it to the group in addition to the
> proposal.

If you or someone else who has a vested interested in the website
would prefer we follow a different process then please let me
know. But before we can give you a list of changes, we need to
create that list.

-- 
Glen