[Tfug] SUV [OT] gas

Thu Sep 28 13:08:19 MST 2006

Closed?  That is no fun!

> Offline for a few days and I'm just now getting around to reading my 200
> messages.
>
> Several people got defensive when he posted his remarks and rightfully so.
> I understood he was upset and I took a lot of what he was saying as being
> derived from that. The problem is he took an issue *he* was emotionally
> attached to and sucked everyone else in to it by insulting and belittling
> them.
>
> I tried to discuss it with him openly hoping that he would come back and
> calm down but it appears his friend (you) decided to pipe up instead which
> doesn't help his cause at all.
>
> I don't think this is an adequate way to deal with your emotions and would
> prefer that if that is the way people are going to behave they take it
> some where else.
>
> The use of the term 'ricer' is used to describe where the car came from
> and/or the types of mods being done to it. I also apologize to anyone that
> may have taken offense to that statement. It was not meant as Richie has
> stated it was used.
>
> I never said I drive an SUV. I drive a full-size truck.
>
> In summary, you do your thing and I'll do mine.
>
> This thread is officially closed.
>
> --
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>> There seems to be a little difficulty in understanding my brand of
>> English-English. So let me help you out:
>>
>> Jon, if you're insulted by my pointing out your use of racist language
>> and questioning your reasons for choosing that type of vehicle, then I'm
>> the foulest mouthest of the lot. That's what my comment about a bad
>> start was about -- your use of the word "ricer". Besides, you're the one
>> who got all defensive as soon as Brian Masur fingered SUVs as being the
>> vehicle of choice for Bad People(tm). In fact, according to the article,
>> Rob Levin was killed by someone driving a white four door car.
>>
>> The reason most urbanites want an SUV is because they want an SUV. Your
>> height isn't stopping you from driving a smaller car; a small car, even:
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060915/ap_on_re_eu/netherlands_tallest_people
>> Summary: the Dutch are getting taller. Average height 6'. Case in point,
>> Pieter Gijselaar is 7' tall (also 'over 6'10.5"'), owns a VW Golf, with
>> modified driver's seat. (I suspect at 6'8" you wouldn't need a
>> replacement for the VW height-adjustable seat. You're kinda the reason
>> they do it.)
>>
>> Moving the occassional piece of furniture in the back of an SUV is also
>> based on faulty reasoning. Get it delivered. Rent a van. Buy some roof
>> bars.
>>
>> The only good reason for buying an off road vehicle? Off road use. And
>> just to spite those who'd like me to fit their "holier than thou"
>> stereotype, I should add I've owned two: a Range Rover and a Honda HR-V
>> (not CR-V) -- opposite ends of the off-roading spectrum, but both got
>> mucky for better reasons than "let's see what's down this track".
>>
>> And Tyler, the environment and government? My views? wtf?
>>
>> R.
>>
>>
>> bigj at flatwan.net wrote:
>>>> You got yourself off to a bad start on the list by proselytizing your
>>>> views on automobiles, the environment, and government--and in the
>>>> process
>>>> insulted the very person on whom TFUG's list depends.  Nice going,
>>>> sport!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for getting me off to a bad start on this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I respect his opinions and even his insults to some degree so long as
>>> they
>>> have some logic mixed in. But most of it was just him babbling and in
>>> effect going, "yeah, well, yer Mom!"
>>>
>>> It shows the level of debate skills he has. I hold very little skill in
>>> that area but for christ's sake that was just awful.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
>
>> There seems to be a little difficulty in understanding my brand of
>> English-English. So let me help you out:
>>
>> Jon, if you're insulted by my pointing out your use of racist language
>> and questioning your reasons for choosing that type of vehicle, then I'm
>> the foulest mouthest of the lot. That's what my comment about a bad
>> start was about -- your use of the word "ricer". Besides, you're the one
>> who got all defensive as soon as Brian Masur fingered SUVs as being the
>> vehicle of choice for Bad People(tm). In fact, according to the article,
>> Rob Levin was killed by someone driving a white four door car.
>>
>> The reason most urbanites want an SUV is because they want an SUV. Your
>> height isn't stopping you from driving a smaller car; a small car, even:
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060915/ap_on_re_eu/netherlands_tallest_people
>> Summary: the Dutch are getting taller. Average height 6'. Case in point,
>> Pieter Gijselaar is 7' tall (also 'over 6'10.5"'), owns a VW Golf, with
>> modified driver's seat. (I suspect at 6'8" you wouldn't need a
>> replacement for the VW height-adjustable seat. You're kinda the reason
>> they do it.)
>>
>> Moving the occassional piece of furniture in the back of an SUV is also
>> based on faulty reasoning. Get it delivered. Rent a van. Buy some roof
>> bars.
>>
>> The only good reason for buying an off road vehicle? Off road use. And
>> just to spite those who'd like me to fit their "holier than thou"
>> stereotype, I should add I've owned two: a Range Rover and a Honda HR-V
>> (not CR-V) -- opposite ends of the off-roading spectrum, but both got
>> mucky for better reasons than "let's see what's down this track".
>>
>> And Tyler, the environment and government? My views? wtf?
>>
>> R.
>>
>>
>> bigj at flatwan.net wrote:
>>>> You got yourself off to a bad start on the list by proselytizing your
>>>> views on automobiles, the environment, and government--and in the
>>>> process
>>>> insulted the very person on whom TFUG's list depends.  Nice going,
>>>> sport!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for getting me off to a bad start on this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I respect his opinions and even his insults to some degree so long as
>>> they
>>> have some logic mixed in. But most of it was just him babbling and in
>>> effect going, "yeah, well, yer Mom!"
>>>
>>> It shows the level of debate skills he has. I hold very little skill in
>>> that area but for christ's sake that was just awful.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tucson Free Unix Group - tfug at tfug.org
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>>
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