[Tfug] The NET

[keith smith]

What bible is Hammurabi's laws from?


"Bowie J. Poag" <bpoag at comcast.net> wrote: 
Actually, it does. Not by torches per se, but by ensuring citizens have 
the tools to ensure that a free state is maintained, i.e. the right to 
keep and bear arms. Important enough to make it the #2 in the list, 
right behind freedom of speech/press/religion/assembly/petition.

I'm not exactly a constitutional scholar, but, I know enough to know the 
founding fathers built enough provisions into the design of that 
document to ensure that government existed in fear of the people, and 
that internal to itself, the government has checks and balances. The day 
the balance shifts is when the polar opposite becomes true -- When the 
people fear their government, and the inernal checks-and-balances system 
breaks.

It really is an elegant document.. You'd be hard pressed to find many 
social documents written 230+ years ago that were crafted well enough to 
still be socially applicable. The only ones I can think of are in the 
Bible.

Read Hammurabi's laws lately? :)

Cheers,
Bowie


Don Freeman wrote:
> I think the constitution doesn't anticipate governmental change via torch
> wielding mobs. In fact, I think  the opposite is the case. It's to be
> accomplished via those who wield a pen at the voting booth. 
>
> :)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tfug-bounces at tfug.org [mailto:tfug-bounces at tfug.org] On Behalf Of
> Bowie J. Poag
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:58 AM
> To: Tucson Free Unix Group
> Subject: Re: [Tfug] The NET
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>
> At the end of the day, we as a nation have more ways of taking the
> government down than the government has ways of taking us down. The
> Constitution provides for it, and does so even during times when we have a
> President who blatantly disregards it, and most of congress doesn't hold him
> or her accountable.
>
> Until that balance shifts to the other side, i'm not particularly concerned.
> Even with all the Big Brotherish stuff thats been happening in recent years,
> I don't think i'll see it in my lifetime. All it takes is a sufficiently
> pissed off torch-weilding mob to shift it back, and in a country of 300
> million, you're not going to be short-handed in that regard. Any such 22nd+
> century angry mob would easily outnumber Government officials, same as
> colonists easilly outnumbered British tax collectors.
>
> Cheers,
> Bowie
>
>
>
> sitkaa at email.arizona.edu wrote:
>   
>> I still understand why such a topic elucidates insults and reprisals.
>> I don't need this.
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>> Farewell TFUG, may your endeavors bring you happiness.
>> Please remove me from the TFUG list.
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>> Quoting john galt :
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>>> I originally wrote this yesterday and had a second thought about 
>>> sending it but what the heck..
>>>
>>> From: 
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>>>> I am not truly all that security conscious, but I just can't help 
>>>> but think about how our world has evolved into what was once just a 
>>>> distopian SciFi
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Say what? Hey let me have a hit of that, OK?....
>>>
>>> Once just a distopian SciFi... What period of time are you referring 
>>> to? 1991 through 2000?
>>>
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>>>> where
>>>> corporate government (the definition of fascism)
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>>> Please define fascism... Dude, where do you get your information 
>>> from.... blogs, movies?
>>> (What I'm looking for are references)
>>>
>>> Is this about that bogus quote attributed to Mussolini? (facism = = 
>>> corporations) Look it up. - in multiple places - see all the sides.
>>>
>>> Remember there can be more than two sides to every story.
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>>>> watches everything,
>>>> propogandizes everything,
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>>>>         
>>> Do you think that watching (surveillance) and propagandizing is 
>>> exclusive to corporatism and invasive forms of government?
>>>
>>> Don't you think the people who sell government technology to do this 
>>> also sell it to others?
>>>
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>>>> controls everything, in order to maintain the status quo and their 
>>>> powerbase.
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>>>>         
>>> Gee, if you split it up like that, (entities that control everything 
>>> to maintain status quo and their powerbase...) the set could include 
>>> schools, government, churches, political parties, businesses of all 
>>> types, families, insect colonies, gangs, organized crime, AARP, hp 
>>> news media Fox news Rove Dean It depends on their intent and goals.
>>>
>>>
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