[Tfug] CIS faculty at PCC west disavow existence of Linux classes

[Leo Przybylski]

Sam,

I absolutely agree with. Most of the CS students that UA is churning out 
lack a lot of Computer Science fundamentals including contemporary CS 
theory (they are all programmed/indoctrinated little drones).  

Maybe this has much to do with CS' s main focus on 
compilers/interpreters and programming languages. I've noticed that ECE 
focuses much on fundamentals of patterns, algorithms, operating systems 
and hardware with embedded instruction sets.

Yes, I am just preaching on how great ECE at UA is much better than CS. 
I believe that with CS's focus on interpreters and programming languages 
that more CS would be involved than it actually is.  Even the OOP is 
sub-par.

Of course, I have never actually taken any of the CS classes or the ECE 
classes. I only obtain this information from students that come in my way.

-Leo Przybylski
http://foopan.leosandbox.org
http://grow.arizona.edu

Sam Hart wrote:

>>I'm glad I didn't sign up to take that course (why is another rant).
>>Does anyone here know where I could learn "C" in an emvironment that
>>isn't hostile towards Linux?
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>Actually, while it may not be the educational system's "Right Way" to 
>learn C (or any programming skills whatsoever)... I always personally 
>recommend finding a friendly Open-Source/Free-Software project or group 
>and help out there.
>
>I personally have never taken /any/ programming classes to learn how to 
>program (I took 'Pascal' once in the '80s at a school to try and prevent 
>them from cancelling it [it didn't work] and one Java class here at the U 
>of A just because I wanted an easy 'A' for my GPA) and can attest that you 
>can pick up any programming language with a little bit of hard work and 
>drive.
>
>In fact, over at Tux4Kids(.org/.net) a few of our most useful developers 
>came to us with no programming skills whatsoever and picked up enough to 
>become very good assets.
>
>Now before anyone grouses about this: Yes, I'm aware this is a 'baptismal 
>by fire' and not for everyone... but methods like this have churned out 
>some of the best programmers I know ;-)
>
>If you want any good suggestions for friendly projects with a minimal of 
>entry skills(_not_ mplayer), feel free to contact me off list.
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