[Tfug] CIS faculty at PCC west disavow existence of Linux classes

Leo Przybylski tfug@tfug.org
Thu Jan 23 08:42:02 2003


James,

There are many ways to approaching how to learn C. I, and I'm sure many 
on this list, did not take a class. If you eventually decide you don't 
want to take a class on C, I'd like to recommend the following books:

K&R (*ISBN:* 0131103628)
Note: All C programmers must have this book. A good reference, guide, 
and no matter how advanced you become, you will always benefit from the 
guidance or a good re-read.

Unix Programming Environment (*ISBN:* 013937681X)
Note: A very comprehensive reverence and guide for programming in Unix.

GNU Make (*ISBN:* 1882114825)
Note: By our friends at FSF. This book will teach you how to use Make. 
You can always use online tutorials, but this is a good reference.

I'm sure you don't care, but the way I got started was with the K&R book 
as well as these following links:
http://capderec.udg.es:81/ebt-bin/nph-dweb/dynaweb/SGI_Developer/XLib_PG/ 
(XLIB Programming manual)
http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.1/manindex3.html (XLIB Reference)

I basically picked up the (emphasis on the) "C" programming book and 
taught myself X Programming. Some like to go to kernel development by 
coding their own hardware emulators. There are HOWTO's and guides on all 
these things and you shouldn't be intimidated by any of it.

-Leo Przybylski
http://foopan.leosandbox.org
http://grow.arizona.edu

James Blanford wrote:

>I went in to talk to Dave Druml about taking his "C" programming class.
>It was obvious he didn't want to bother paying any attention to
>prospective students.  He barely spoke beyond grunts except to announce
>firmly that he could make no special accomodations for any student. Mind
> you I wasn't asking for any accomodation, but he obviously wasn't
> paying any attention to what I was saying.  He was just responding to
> key words that penetrated through his academic haze.
>
>The only other things he said were rather curious:
>
>1)  Harry McGregor was not a member of the CIS department and no one was 
>teaching any Linux classes at Pima.  I guess this guy is so threatened
>by Linux he has achieved a special advanced state of denial.
>
>2)  No one could use a Linux computer to do the assignments in his
> class, because he requires assignments to be turned in on a disk
> readable in Windows.  He even argued that one for a couple sentences
> and then gave up and admitted that it would be possible.
>
>3)  The University of Arizona offers no "C" programming class.  I
> don't know, maybe he just isn't aware of anything that happens outside
> of his office.
>
>I think I'm going to complain to the county supervisors.  I'm sick of
>sky-high real estate taxes going to pay for a community education system
>that arrogantly ignores the educational needs of the citizens.  And I'm
>sick of my tax money going to pay for proprietary software products so
>that old hacks (not hackers) can stick around and perpetuate the Bill
>Gates hegemenoy.
>
>I'm glad I didn't sign up to take that course (why is another rant).
>Does anyone here know where I could learn "C" in an emvironment that
>isn't hostile towards Linux?
>
>     -  Jim
>
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