[Tfug] CIS faculty at PCC west disavow existence of Linux classes

Wed Jan 22 18:53:01 2003

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Jim,
    There are many good books on how to learn C. Your best bet is to get 
a self paced book, and use in on your own Linux box. If you need a 
structured environment then see if another instructor will do. Which 
course was it? I see the following available (and much more):
CSI 234 - Introduction to C for Non-Programmers /2 cr. hrs./3 periods (1 
lec., 2 lab)
CSI 235 - Introduction to C for Programmers /1 cr. hr./1.5 periods (.5 
lec., 1 lab)

In addition you can get assistance from many of us on the list.
    Good luck, Bruce

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Bruce R. Nevins, bnevins@nexiliscom.com
Vice President, Nexilis Communications Corp.
2527 E. 3rd St., Tucson, AZ, 85716-4114
+1-520-795-6000, +1-520-795-0158 (Fax)
http://www.nexiliscom.com/

James Blanford wrote:

>I went in to talk to Dave Druml about taking his "C" programming class.
>It was obvious he didn't want to bother paying any attention to
>prospective students.  He barely spoke beyond grunts except to announce
>firmly that he could make no special accomodations for any student. Mind
> you I wasn't asking for any accomodation, but he obviously wasn't
> paying any attention to what I was saying.  He was just responding to
> key words that penetrated through his academic haze.
>
>The only other things he said were rather curious:
>
>1)  Harry McGregor was not a member of the CIS department and no one was 
>teaching any Linux classes at Pima.  I guess this guy is so threatened
>by Linux he has achieved a special advanced state of denial.
>
>2)  No one could use a Linux computer to do the assignments in his
> class, because he requires assignments to be turned in on a disk
> readable in Windows.  He even argued that one for a couple sentences
> and then gave up and admitted that it would be possible.
>
>3)  The University of Arizona offers no "C" programming class.  I
> don't know, maybe he just isn't aware of anything that happens outside
> of his office.
>
>I think I'm going to complain to the county supervisors.  I'm sick of
>sky-high real estate taxes going to pay for a community education system
>that arrogantly ignores the educational needs of the citizens.  And I'm
>sick of my tax money going to pay for proprietary software products so
>that old hacks (not hackers) can stick around and perpetuate the Bill
>Gates hegemenoy.
>
>I'm glad I didn't sign up to take that course (why is another rant).
>Does anyone here know where I could learn "C" in an emvironment that
>isn't hostile towards Linux?
>
>     -  Jim
>
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Jim, 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; There are many good books on how to learn C. Your best bet is to get
a self paced book, and use in on your own Linux box. If you need a structured
environment then see if another instructor will do. Which course was it?
I see the following available (and much more): 
 CSI 234 - Introduction to C for Non-Programmers /2 cr. hrs./3 periods
(1 lec., 2 lab) 
 CSI 235 - Introduction to C for Programmers /1 cr. hr./1.5 periods (.5
lec., 1 lab) 
 
 
In addition you can get assistance from many of us on the list.
 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Good luck, Bruce

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Bruce R. Nevins, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bnevins@nexiliscom.com">bnevins@nexiliscom.com</a>
Vice President, Nexilis Communications Corp.
2527 E. 3rd St., Tucson, AZ, 85716-4114
+1-520-795-6000, +1-520-795-0158 (Fax)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nexiliscom.com/">http://www.nexiliscom.com/</a>
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  <pre wrap="">I went in to talk to Dave Druml about taking his "C" programming class.
It was obvious he didn't want to bother paying any attention to
prospective students.  He barely spoke beyond grunts except to announce
firmly that he could make no special accomodations for any student. Mind
 you I wasn't asking for any accomodation, but he obviously wasn't
 paying any attention to what I was saying.  He was just responding to
 key words that penetrated through his academic haze.

The only other things he said were rather curious:

1)  Harry McGregor was not a member of the CIS department and no one was 
teaching any Linux classes at Pima.  I guess this guy is so threatened
by Linux he has achieved a special advanced state of denial.

2)  No one could use a Linux computer to do the assignments in his
 class, because he requires assignments to be turned in on a disk
 readable in Windows.  He even argued that one for a couple sentences
 and then gave up and admitted that it would be possible.

3)  The University of Arizona offers no "C" programming class.  I
 don't know, maybe he just isn't aware of anything that happens outside
 of his office.

I think I'm going to complain to the county supervisors.  I'm sick of
sky-high real estate taxes going to pay for a community education system
that arrogantly ignores the educational needs of the citizens.  And I'm
sick of my tax money going to pay for proprietary software products so
that old hacks (not hackers) can stick around and perpetuate the Bill
Gates hegemenoy.

I'm glad I didn't sign up to take that course (why is another rant).
Does anyone here know where I could learn "C" in an emvironment that
isn't hostile towards Linux?

     -  Jim

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