[Tfug] Re: ISP for Qwest DSL

[A.Chris Hilton]

Have Amavisd (or Amavisd-new) stuff yer email through Razor first, with
SpamAssasin cleaning up the leftovers.  I haven't had any UCE get to my
inbox (that I can remember, heh) in about a year.

-C-

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:30:19 -0700 (MST)
Jon <bigj@tfug.org> wrote:

> The majority of my spam comes through open relays. Now that Spam
> Assassin is installed I don't really have a problem with spam though
> :)
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, R351574NC3 wrote:
> 
> > Very nice stuff on anti-spam. I noted all of it.
> >
> > Would you say that most spam is through SMTP relaying or through a
> > legitimate SMTP server?
> >
> > Some ISP's fight SPAM with the approach that all SPAM comes through
> > relaying. If your SMTP server blacklists SPAM relaying SMTP servers,
> > you can limit your spam inbound throughput. I didn't gather your
> > thoughts on this from what you wrote. Most think that it's a losing
> > battle and that the fight for SPAM happens at your front door, and
> > that you have to insist upon yourself for results. What do you
> > think?
> >
> > -Leo Przybylski
> > http://foopan.leosandbox.org
> > http;//grow.arizona.edu
> >
> > Sam Hart wrote:
> >
> > >>Outside of AOL, most message boards and email groups are pretty
> > >safe>from harvesters, who prefer to use crawlers that harvest
> > >mailto>addresses from an html context. Mailman protects against
> > >this by not>posting email addresses in the archives. In other
> > >words: the only way>to get addresses from this Listserv... is to
> > >join the Listserv. Most of>the old-school newsgroup type crawlers
> > >fail here because they don't know>how to reply to the confirmation
> > >email.>
> > >>
> > >
> > >That's not true, take a look at the email archive for this message
> > >and you'll see that in your quoting the original poster you've
> > >inadvertantly(sp?) added their e-mail addy in a web-readable form:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>. Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:08:12 -0700
> > >>. Subject: [Tfug] Re: ISP for Qwest DSL
> > >>. From: Michele Campbell <omega593@mac.com>
> > >>. Reply-To: tfug@tfug.org
> > >>. To: tfug@tfug.org
> > >>. X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Hey look, I just did it myself! ;-)
> > >
> > >Plus, there are some pretty clever spambots out there these days (I
> > >actually know someone who writes these things for a living). They
> > >now can correctly glean an email in odd forms like "joe at foo dot
> > >com" and"joe_DELETE_ME_@foot.com" and things like that.
> > >
> > >The unfortunate thing is that, in this day and age, you really
> > >can't avoid getting spammed. No matter how hard you try, if you use
> > >an e-mail addy for long enough you will be exposed to some spam
> > >harvester of some sort. Just do a search on google for your email
> > >addy and exclude any websites you have direct control over and
> > >you'll be amazed at all the unknown places you'll turn up (last I
> > >checked, my personal addy was on close to 1000 distinct pages)
> > >
> > >And, of course, you do have to realize that even if a list you are
> > >on obfuscates the addresses, that list could easily be mirrored
> > >somewhere else that doesn't.
> > >
> > >For those who haven't read it (sorry, dunno if this has already
> > >been posted on this list, I get so much mail that I can't always
> > >read every message I get from lists ;-) here's an interesting paper
> > >on the subject:
> > >http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html
> > >
> > >Also, anyone interested in what I personally do to fight spam, you
> > >can read my blurb here:
> > >http://geekcomix.com/cgi-bin/snh/wiki.pl?SPAM
> > >
> > >and you can see the tabulated results for my efforts for the last 6
> > >months or so here:
> > >http://geekcomix.com/snh/spam.shtml
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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