[Tfug] Re: ISP for Qwest DSL

[Jon]

The majority of my spam comes through open relays. Now that Spam Assassin
is installed I don't really have a problem with spam though :)

Jon

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, R351574NC3 wrote:

> Very nice stuff on anti-spam. I noted all of it.
>
> Would you say that most spam is through SMTP relaying or through a
> legitimate SMTP server?
>
> Some ISP's fight SPAM with the approach that all SPAM comes through
> relaying. If your SMTP server blacklists SPAM relaying SMTP servers, you
> can limit your spam inbound throughput. I didn't gather your thoughts on
> this from what you wrote. Most think that it's a losing battle and that
> the fight for SPAM happens at your front door, and that you have to
> insist upon yourself for results. What do you think?
>
> -Leo Przybylski
> http://foopan.leosandbox.org
> http;//grow.arizona.edu
>
> Sam Hart wrote:
>
> >>Outside of AOL, most message boards and email groups are pretty safe
> >>from harvesters, who prefer to use crawlers that harvest mailto
> >>addresses from an html context. Mailman protects against this by not
> >>posting email addresses in the archives. In other words: the only way
> >>to get addresses from this Listserv... is to join the Listserv. Most of
> >>the old-school newsgroup type crawlers fail here because they don't know
> >>how to reply to the confirmation email.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >That's not true, take a look at the email archive for this message and
> >you'll see that in your quoting the original poster you've inadvertantly
> >(sp?) added their e-mail addy in a web-readable form:
> >
> >
> >
> >>. Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:08:12 -0700
> >>. Subject: [Tfug] Re: ISP for Qwest DSL
> >>. From: Michele Campbell <omega593@mac.com>
> >>. Reply-To: tfug@tfug.org
> >>. To: tfug@tfug.org
> >>. X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Hey look, I just did it myself! ;-)
> >
> >Plus, there are some pretty clever spambots out there these days (I
> >actually know someone who writes these things for a living). They now can
> >correctly glean an email in odd forms like "joe at foo dot com" and
> >"joe_DELETE_ME_@foot.com" and things like that.
> >
> >The unfortunate thing is that, in this day and age, you really can't avoid
> >getting spammed. No matter how hard you try, if you use an e-mail addy for
> >long enough you will be exposed to some spam harvester of some sort. Just
> >do a search on google for your email addy and exclude any websites you
> >have direct control over and you'll be amazed at all the unknown places
> >you'll turn up (last I checked, my personal addy was on close to 1000
> >distinct pages)
> >
> >And, of course, you do have to realize that even if a list you are on
> >obfuscates the addresses, that list could easily be mirrored somewhere
> >else that doesn't.
> >
> >For those who haven't read it (sorry, dunno if this has already been
> >posted on this list, I get so much mail that I can't always read every
> >message I get from lists ;-) here's an interesting paper on the subject:
> >http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html
> >
> >Also, anyone interested in what I personally do to fight spam, you can
> >read my blurb here:
> >http://geekcomix.com/cgi-bin/snh/wiki.pl?SPAM
> >
> >and you can see the tabulated results for my efforts for the last 6 months
> >or so here:
> >http://geekcomix.com/snh/spam.shtml
> >
> >
> >
>
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