[Tfug] The 3.5.7 kernel

[erich]

Yes,
         There's been some apparent difficulties with 3.5.7. In 
particular, it was difficult to
set a makefile flag called USB_SUSPEND. So I have upgraded my machine to
i386 3.7.10-gentoo, and have been able to set this flag. This is 
critical for hotplugging
in the new world without HAL. (so far that i've read)

         This is Gentoo. Since Daniel Robbins figured out how to improve 
& speed up
the gcc compiler, everything gets built, including the kernel.

          It takes about 10 seconds to boot up. In contrast my Windows 
XP system
at work takes the better part of 30 mins.

Erich

John Gruenenfelder wrote:
> On Mar 8, 2013 9:55 AM, "erich" <erich1 at copper.net> wrote:
>   
>> OK,
>>         We're not in Kansas anymore. I got this box up and running. I've installed
>> Thunar and Gnome. The network facility works great, but these new kernels
>> have a lot of stuff that's dynamic. There's no HAL daemon anymore.
>> What do you add to your 3.5.7 system that lets it sense external hardware such
>> as a USB hard drive or DVD?
>>     
>
> Erich,
>
> My understanding is that the HAL daemon has been deprecated in favor
> of udev for several years now.  udev should be capable of doing
> everything hal could do and more.
>
> As others have pointed out, though, it is only part of the puzzle. If
> you want hot-plugging and/or automounting of devices in your desktop
> then there are more packages you need.  By itself, udev should be able
> to handle a lot, such as autoloading modules in response to plugging
> in a USB device, for example.
>
> If you did a normal install of Ubuntu then it should have installed
> everything you need.  It seems it did not, though.  I would try to
> rely on the package managers suggestions to find what you are missing.
>  For example, I use the "text/console GUI" interface you see when you
> run "aptitude" without argument.  It provides prodigious information
> for the selected package such as what it suggests, recommends, and
> depends on.  It can also do the reverse and show what *other* packages
> suggest, recommand, depend, and conflict on the package you have
> selected.
>
> Put it all together and you can usually follow the trail and find what
> you are missing.  You could start with your GUI of choice, such as
> gnome-shell or unity, and go from there.  Since bits are functional,
> you clearly aren't missing any "depends" packages.  That would seem to
> indicate that the missing functionality falls into the suggests or
> recommends category.
>
> I've done procedures like this in the past.  Not for this particular
> missing ability, but I have, a few times, gone back to see what extra
> packages I might have missed that could offer extra functionality that
> I might find useful.  Since aptitude can give so much information and
> allows you do drill down through the dependency tree to a seemingly
> arbitrary depth, the process isn't too difficult.
>
> Hope that offers some help.
>
>
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