[Tfug] Steve Jobs has passed away

[Zack Williams]

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Bender <bender at bendertherobot.com> wrote:

> **
> I don't follow the premise..
>
> His servers are Mac? or his desktop is mac?
>

Desktop is Mac, servers are *nix of some sort is what I got out of the GP
post.

Been hearing the, "it just works" line prior to when I was forced to use a
> mac using System 7.something.
>

This is the ultimate "YMMV" question.   In my experience, you're much less
likely to have problems hooking a Mac up out of the box than most other
machines.

Ok let's consider that. But in relation to having a Unix shell?
>

>From my machine (10.6.8).  Fire up Terminal:

$ uname -v
Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0:

 $ cat /etc/shells
/bin/bash
/bin/csh
/bin/ksh
/bin/sh
/bin/tcsh
/bin/zsh

It's unix all the way down

How does that manifest itself in real world situations, mac fans?
>

It's awesome.  Everything that's great about running *nix combined with GUI
applications designed by people who care about how things work.

-OR- what horror stories can be told that were solved by using a mac?
> (apples to apples, pun intended...)
>

This is less of an issue now than it was in the past, but power management
used to be broken more often than fixed on most laptops under Linux (I'm
thinking circa 2001-2005 timeframe).   You'd buy a Powerbook and it would
work out of the box, no problems, with suspend to RAM.     Add to this the
ability to run MS/Adobe software, and all the niceties of the hardware
design and you have a winning combination if you wanted to run a unix OS on
portable hardware.

That said, Linux and BSD have come a long way - I'm particularly impressed
by more recent Ubuntu releases in terms of hardware compatibility and
functionality.

- Zack
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