[Tfug] Grub rescue

Sun Oct 31 10:07:26 MST 2010

Thanks for the tips.  Just to give a little bit more info : I'm not getting to the boot menu, after the blinking cursor, the display is:

error: file not found
grub rescue>

Is there anything I can do with this prompt (input) to get to the old boot menu, to start up the Windows boot loader (which is in there somewhere),  or even get to kubuntu?

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>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:06:37 -0700
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>> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:59:42 -0700
>> From: Ammon Lauritzen<allaryin at gmail.com>
>> To: Tucson Free Unix Group<tfug at tfug.org>
>> Subject: [Tfug] distro suggestions
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>> Brief:
>> I need help choosing a distro. It needs to be linux. It needs to be
>>
>>
>> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>>
>> Slackware
>David
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 23:19:48 -0700
>From: John Gruenenfelder <johng at as.arizona.edu>
>To: Tucson Free Unix Group <tfug at tfug.org>
>Subject: Re: [Tfug] distro suggestions
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>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 09:09:32PM -0700, Ammon Lauritzen wrote:
>>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:12 PM, John Gruenenfelder
>><johng at as.arizona.edu> wrote:
>>> You want Debian. ?Enough said. ?:)
>>>
>>> I just recently installed Debian on old laptop with 64 MB of RAM (try *that*
>>> with Ubuntu or Gentoo). ?Shortly thereafter it was upgraded to 256 MB and it
>>> was a breeze to go back and give it a minimal X treatment (using Xfce).
>>
>>Debian was my distro of choice from about '02 to about '05 or so when
>>Ubuntu began to fill that slot. My primary reason for leaving it was
>>their stubborn refusal to get with the now. I eventually had to run
>>Sid if I wanted even vaguely current versions of desktop applications
>>and I remember having to roll my own SSL libraries on production
>>servers because those took weeks to mosey into apt-get after major
>>security announcements.
>>
>>Granted, things could have changed in the last 5 years...
>>
>>Browsing the current package availability, I would have to run
>>unstable again if I wanted Ruby 1.9.2 (this is the current favored 1.9
>>build - 1.9.0 and 1.9.1 were garbage - Debian stable and testing ship
>>1.9.0).
>>
>>They also ship a 3-year-old version of OpenSSL with stable, so I'd
>>have to run at least testing if I wanted apt-get to manage that for
>>me... My quick glance doesn't make me feel like things have really
>>changed all that much since I abandoned them for stagnation.
>>
>>What I don't want to have to do is apt-pin everything useful from
>>unstable just to have modern packages. However, I'm not that opposed
>>to running testing... shrug.
>>
>>Debian _would_ allow me to install a fairly minimal system quickly and
>>then hand compile what I need. I'll give it some stronger
>>consideration.
>>
>>Do they ship a decent firewall configuration utility?
>
>I can't speak to the usability of current firewall config tools.  Nowadays, I
>configure all that on my router running OpenWRT.  However, the last time I had
>to do it in Debian it was about, oh, five years ago or so.  I remember it
>being rather easy to configure.  But... that was a while ago.
>
>I personally run Sid at home.  I find breakage to be very rare, and since I
>know what's what with Debian, if there *is* breakage, I can usually fix it
>very quickly.
>
>At work I have a file server running stable and it is *very* stable.
>Definitely not bleeding edge, or anything, but there hasn't been a peep from
>it.  On my office machine I run testing so I can get newer software.  I'd run
>Sid on it, but other people use it on occasion and I don't want anything to
>break.
>
>Regarding OpenSSL, are you sure it's truly three years old?  It may be one of
>those Debian-special packages that seems old from the version number, but has
>a zillion patches applied to it.  Of course, that can backfire sometimes too
>(cough, OpenSSH)...
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>Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 01:08:22 -0700
>From: Ammon Lauritzen <allaryin at gmail.com>
>To: johng at as.arizona.edu, Tucson Free Unix Group <tfug at tfug.org>
>Subject: Re: [Tfug] distro suggestions
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>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Phil Simpson <pgsimpso at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Check out Arch.? It comes with the version of Ruby you want in the official
>> packages and it somewhat like Gentoo sans having to compile everything.? I
>> started using Arch for everything about a year ago and haven't regretted
>> it.? Arch also has a really good community.
>
>I'll give it a look, thanks.
>
>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:19 PM, John Gruenenfelder
><johng at as.arizona.edu> wrote:
>> I can't speak to the usability of current firewall config tools. ?Nowadays, I
>> configure all that on my router running OpenWRT. ?However, the last time I had
>> to do it in Debian it was about, oh, five years ago or so. ?I remember it
>> being rather easy to configure. ?But... that was a while ago.
>
>Yeah, I use dd-wrt on an old wrt54g right now and have some Cisco
>hardware if I really need it. Mostly, I'm curious for better options -
>largely just because if I'm going to be running this box, I may as
>well get some more use out of it ;)
>
>> I personally run Sid at home. ?I find breakage to be very rare, and since I
>> know what's what with Debian, if there *is* breakage, I can usually fix it
>> very quickly.
>>
>> At work I have a file server running stable and it is *very* stable.
>> Definitely not bleeding edge, or anything, but there hasn't been a peep from
>> it. ?On my office machine I run testing so I can get newer software. ?I'd run
>> Sid on it, but other people use it on occasion and I don't want anything to
>> break.
>
>Yeah, honestly, I think Sid is usually plenty stable, but calling it
>the unstable branch always unnerved me whenever I found something that
>hadn't made its way to testing yet.
>
>> Regarding OpenSSL, are you sure it's truly three years old? ?It may be one of
>> those Debian-special packages that seems old from the version number, but has
>> a zillion patches applied to it. ?Of course, that can backfire sometimes too
>> (cough, OpenSSH)...
>
>It could be a weird special patched build, but I don't trust them - I
>always assume the worst when it comes to reported version numbers.
>Especially when it comes to security. If you're not running an
>official build, you should change the reported version string to
>indicate this. Shrug.
>
>I think I'll see if Arch isn't too low level for my needs and will
>plan on Debian otherwise.
>
>One thing I'm wanting to avoid here is having to learn a whole other language ;)
>
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>Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 01:13:17 -0700
>From: Ammon Lauritzen <allaryin at gmail.com>
>To: Tucson Free Unix Group <tfug at tfug.org>
>Subject: Re: [Tfug] Grub rescue
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>Boot from a rescue/live cd.
>
>Most installers can help you recover a hosed setup. One way is by
>getting you into a full grub environment, from which it is often
>possible to attempt booting directly from the os on disk.
>
>Grub is crazy powerful, check docs/wikis for specifics.
>
>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Charles R. Kiss
><charles at kissbrothers.com> wrote:
>> Kinda in an emergency situation.
>>
>> At my girlfriends place, far from home, I got a grub rescue> prompt on her kubuntu/T61 and she has no disks. ?And I don't know any commands, only 'ls' works, ?no 'cat', no help, etc.
>>
>> How can I boot this? ?Go to the library and make a new install cd??
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> It also has a windows partition on it. ?Been getting grub-pc errors for awhile during aptitude installs ?. Finally one did it, hplip.
>>
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>Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 01:14:42 -0700
>From: Ammon Lauritzen <allaryin at gmail.com>
>To: Tucson Free Unix Group <tfug at tfug.org>
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>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:06 PM, David Stites <david at dstites.net> wrote:
>>> Slackware
>
>Grin. Slack was my first distro, back in '96. I've run it a few times
>since the late 90's, but I don't think it's quite what I want this
>time around.
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>Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 09:31:48 -0500
>From: JD Rogers <rogersjd at gmail.com>
>To: Tucson Free Unix Group <tfug at tfug.org>
>Subject: Re: [Tfug] Grub rescue
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>Sounds like it may be too late, but for future reference...
>
>As Ammon said, GRUB is pretty powerful and you may be able to get things
>working without a disk depending on what is wrong. For example, if the drive
>labels changed and grub is looking for the system in the wrong place, you
>can hit 'e' to edit the grub line temporarily and point it in the right
>direction to get boot properly and then fix the problem form a running
>system.
>
>If you need a rescue disk and you have no blank disks but a USB flash drive
>and a working windows or ubuntu box with network, you can make a bootable
>flash drive.
>
>In ubuntu, it's under admin -> startup disk creator. It doesn't even delete
>the data on your drive but watch out not to click 'erase disk' which in the
>past asked for no confirmation and just wiped an usb connected drive
>(STUPID!).
>
>On windows, I think you have to just follow instructions on the website and
>follow the directions for making a bootable usb on windows.
>
>In either case, you need to download an iso, so it may take a while.
>
>Once booted onto a rescue disk, you should be able to poke around the
>installed drive an see what is wrong. If you have to do anything from within
>the broken system, chroot is awesome.
>
>JDR
>
>
>On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Ammon Lauritzen <allaryin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Boot from a rescue/live cd.
>>
>> Most installers can help you recover a hosed setup. One way is by
>> getting you into a full grub environment, from which it is often
>> possible to attempt booting directly from the os on disk.
>>
>> Grub is crazy powerful, check docs/wikis for specifics.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Charles R. Kiss
>> <charles at kissbrothers.com> wrote:
>> > Kinda in an emergency situation.
>> >
>> > At my girlfriends place, far from home, I got a grub rescue> prompt on
>> her kubuntu/T61 and she has no disks.  And I don't know any commands, only
>> 'ls' works,  no 'cat', no help, etc.
>> >
>> > How can I boot this?  Go to the library and make a new install cd??
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > It also has a windows partition on it.  Been getting grub-pc errors for
>> awhile during aptitude installs  . Finally one did it, hplip.
>> >
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