[Tfug] Another CC* weighs in....

[keith smith]

Interesting artifact.   I think this is being misinterpreted.  Our founders where for the most part Christians and their faith and Christian values effected how they did things and it is why we have been such a great nation.

There is much history to show this.  I do not have any links to share however I have done some studying in this area and we were formed from the very first settlers as a Christian nation.

I can see why they wrote what they did.  If you look at the 1st Amendment you can see why they said such a thing - "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion....".

To state in a treaty that the US was a Christian nation would have in effect be saying the government had established a religion.  

All that aside this Nation was founded on Christian principles by Christian men. They prayed and visited the local Christian church while in session.  There were a few that were weak in their faith however they were in the minority.


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Keith Smith

--- On Wed, 6/16/10, bpoag at comcast.net <bpoag at comcast.net> wrote:

From: bpoag at comcast.net <bpoag at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tfug] Another CC* weighs in....
To: "Tucson Free Unix Group" <tfug at tfug.org>
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 1:33 PM

#yiv746531359 p {margin:0;}
Actually.... No. Most of America's founding fathers were Deists. Not Christians. They believed in the notion of God, but not Christianity. Infact, many of them weren't even ambivalent about Christianity. They flat out didn't like Christianity, as you can see:

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html

So, please, PLEASE read up on history, and stop perpetuating the "Dehhh, This country was founded on Christian values by Christian people!" lie, because that's precisely what it is. I'm a Christian. I of course wish such a statement were true, but it isn't, and no amount of wishing, interpretation, or re-thinking will make it so, and you have a responsibility as a fellow Christian to quit spreading BS.

Cheers,
Bowie









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From: "keith smith" <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>
To: "Tucson Free Unix Group" <tfug at tfug.org>
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Interestingly this country was founded on Christin values by Christian people.  Our laws used to be derived from the Bible.  I know they do not teach that in school any longer and history has been and is being rewritten.

If it were not for those Christians we would not have the country we have with the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

If you have followed what is going on in Texas you will know what I am saying is true about the rewriting of history.

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Keith Smith

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Robert Hunter <hunter at tfug.org> wrote:

From: Robert Hunter <hunter at tfug.org>
Subject: Re: [Tfug] Another CC* weighs in....
To: "Tucson Free Unix Group" <tfug at tfug.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 10:25 PM

I'm with Malclom.  The nut jobs will need to suck it up, or at least
take time to learn how to use email filters.

A couple of quotes for you to chew on...

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate
its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and
will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to
seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or
driving underground all heretics.
--Robert A. Heinlein

Treat your
 religion like you would your genitalia.  It's not polite
to wave it around in public, or shove it down the throats of people.
--Unknown Author

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RH

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Malcolm Schmerl <mjs355 at comcast.net> wrote:
> First of all, note that the word 'hell' was never capitalized and never used
> in a religious context.

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