[Tfug] Apple Mac OS X: tool of Godless Darwinists and Communist / TROLL ALERT?

[keith smith]

They talk about Carl Sagan's teachings in the Truth Project.


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Keith Smith


--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Jordan Aberle <jordan.aberle at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jordan Aberle <jordan.aberle at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tfug] Apple Mac OS X: tool of Godless Darwinists and Communist / TROLL ALERT?
> To: "Tucson Free Unix Group" <tfug at tfug.org>
> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 2:55 PM
> 
> I'm really enjoying this thread, we should have
> more like this.  I just got the entire series of "The
> Universe" produced by the History channel, it's
> three seasons long.  They delve deep into the LHC as well
> as many other subjects, It's considered to be the new
> Cosmos (Carl Sagan).  
> 
> 
> I highly recommend it:
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1051155/
> A believer of physical evidence and reasoned
> logic,
> 
> -Jordan
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:12 PM, 
> <Liz_Ravenwood at beaerospace.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi Don,
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> rational/irrational
> quibbling...  is
> it a question of semantics or ontology?
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> I'm  really not very
> knowledgable
> about math.  I've only made it through 2nd quarter
> calculus.--  but
> baggage regarding our perceptions?
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> It's more of question
> really, of wondering
> if we've gone down so far in our existing formulas like
> the value of a
> so-called cosmological constant, that our subsequent
> formulas, knowledge,
> and physics, although they work in a classical sense, will
> never ever ever
> come out right in a quantum sense.
> 
> just wondering...
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> and why take a valium if
> I'm in zen
> mode?  oh - maybe the folks around wouldn't want to
> hear my lovely
> voice!  ;-)
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> Respectfully,
> 
> Liz, Data Base Administrator,
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> Methods Engineering
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> Bexley Hall <bexley401 at yahoo.com>
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> Mac OS X: tool of Godless
> Darwinists and Communist        / TROLL
> ALERT?
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> Hi, Liz,
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> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Liz_Ravenwood at beaerospace.com
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> [snip]
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>  
> 
> > and then I wonder how much is really
> 
> > a product of our mathematics when our mathematics is
> 
> > inately inadequte since reality is really irrational
> numbers 
> 
> > anyay, and how we decide to
> 
> > frame it is based on the precision and scale of the
> numbers
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> > we use to represent it.
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> This is a good point (though I can quibble over
> rational/irrational,
> 
> etc.)
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> Unfortunately, I have forgotten more than I ever knew so I
> can't
> 
> cite specifics but I seem to recall the concept of zero was
> a
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> dramatic step forward in mathematical concepts.  And,
> moving to
> 
> a "positional" (?) numbering system vs. something
> like Roman
> 
> numerals made "higher math" much more likely to
> evolve.
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> So, what baggage does our current math carry with it and
> what
> 
> does it prevent us from seeing more clearly?
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> > If mathematics can yield such far off results based on
> 4 decimal
> 
> > positions out, then what can a full pi really do?
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> > Gosh, going in to zen mode - yet again. 
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> > 
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> > I should sing now...  "It's zen
> again..."
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> Yikes!  Give that girl some valium...  ;-)
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