[Tfug] Alan Cox: "I've had enough"--what else is new?

[Matthew T. Eskes]

On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 01:18 -0700, Bowie J. Poag wrote:
> > Sigh...
> >
> > Look, worst case couldn't something look directly at firmware memory
> > locations..."old school" style?
> >   
> Jim... You're missing the boat entirely here.
> 
> The EFI layer is the end of the road of inquiry for the kernel. There is 
> nothing else beyond, beside it, or behind it to read. The EFI can 
> contain actual Apple firmware, or simply contain generic firmware that 
> has it's bits tickled in the right places so as to be OS X-friendly. Any 
> OS-level or kernel-level inquiry into the low-level details of the box 
> has nowhere else to go.
> 
> (Interestingly, newer PCs are also increasingly EFI-based. The laptop 
> i'm using right now does not have a physical BIOS. It has an Insyde H2O 
> EFI with x86 BIOS emulation.)
> 
> 
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Bowie,

On a side note, I really think that EFI is the best thing to happen to
PCs since... well since they dropped all the legacy hardware. And btw
that last message was my poor attempt at being funny, I'm quite aware
that Insyde makes EFI Frameworks for literally anyone who asks/pays