[Tfug] Civil Liberties...

Rich r-lists at studiosprocket.com
Sat Mar 22 17:50:10 MST 2008


My philosophy is that if you want those organizations to change, you  
have to do something about it, rather than hope they go away. Taking  
a job with them is probably one of the more significant things you  
can do: just be super-nice and super-professional, and frown at the  
slightest hint of "unapproved" behavior. This is of far greater  
benefit to the community than is the detriment of aiding the  
organization. It also has a deeper effect within the organization  
than writing a letter of complaint to someone's superior.

And then for your own conscience? Well, consider that these (huge)  
organizations buy in huge quantities from other huge equipment  
manufacturers, such as Cisco, Sun, and the like. They aid these  
organizations in a far greater way than one person's employment. Are  
you also going to refuse employment with those companies, on the  
grounds that they're suppliers to a particular organization? That  
would be the logical follow-through.

Just my two pennorth.

R.

On Mar 19, 2008, at 5:19 pm, George Cohn wrote:
> sitkaa at email.arizona.edu wrote:
>>  From my limited run-ins with the intel community, I can second  
>> this. The U.S.
>> intel community has had a high moral standard of behavior -  
>> probably higher
>> than my own - and has generally been rather tolerant of the  
>> foibles of the
>> peoples. This may ultimately be a real saving grace.
>>
>> I am not concerned with the way things are, but rather the way things
>> are going.
>
> That may have been true in the past but I have read way too many
> articles of abuses that have taken place in the last couple of years.
>
> I recently turned down a well paying IT job with DHC because after
> reconsidering my personal political viewpoint, I just couldn't see
> myself working for them.
>
> George Cohn
>
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