[Tfug] religious nutcakes

[keith smith]

Those folks that burn crosses are not Christians.  They may say they are but once you test their beliefs with the Word of God then you will find out they are not Christian.  There are a lot of cults that profess to be Christian.  They even use all the Christian buzz words.  Once you get into their beliefs and test them you find they are not Christian. 

Also it is my understanding the Muslim Koran does say they are supposed to kill us.  The other thought to ponder is not one Muslim has denounced the actions of the radical faction that perpetrated 9/11. I am hoping someone on the list will prove me wrong.

Please do not think I am against the Muslim religion.  I believe in the First Amendment and believe everyone of us has the right to practice whatever religious belief we desire, or to not practice at all.   However if your religious beliefs include being violent towards me or America I have a problem with that.  


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--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Jude Nelson <judecn at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jude Nelson <judecn at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tfug] religious nutcakes
To: "Tucson Free Unix Group" <tfug at tfug.org>
Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 8:40 PM

Eric,

You will find in this world that less than 1% of Muslims are
"nutcakes".  Just like any mainstream religion, there will always be
small ultraconservative groups within it that give every other
follower a bad name.  Should I think that all Christians are nutcakes
because a few of them kill homosexuals and abortion doctors, or wear
white robes and set crosses on fire?  Should I think that all Jews are
nutcakes because a few of them want to ethnically cleanse Palestine?
Should I think that all Hindus are nutcakes because a few of them try
to occasionally burn down Christian churches?  Of course not--it's
false induction.  Likewise, not all Muslims are "nutcakes" just
because a few of them happen to be terrorists.

Regards,
Jude

On 7/11/08, eric christian <ericdanc at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>>
>> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:53:14 -0700
>> From: Michael Omar Gatto <gatto_omar at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Tfug] religious nutcakes
>> To: <tfug at tfug.org>
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>>
>> Meh, I served in Afghanistan as a Marine. I'd hate to nuke it
since there
>> were alot of fine people there and the food is damn good, too. I
don't
>> like my curries radioactive, mind you...
>>
> I said the tribal areas, didn't I? thats where the Taliban are
attacking
> us from. Its like the SS went to Liechtenstein 1945 and attacked German
> cities in the 1950s.
>>
>> Oh, and as a Persian linguist I don't consider most Muslims as
nutcakes
>> and although I personally find some Egyptians rather annoying
sometimes
>> (used to be married to one) it doesn't automatically make them
assholes or
>> terrorists, me thinks. Rumor has it that UA holds academic conferences
and
>> people, apparently (gasp!) sometimes fly in just for a day to score
>> brownie points by saying they attended...
>>
>> - Mike Gatto
>>
> Well, that's just fine. Then you can explain to us the persian concept
> of "ketman" (arabian "taqiya"). I do consider moslems 
as nutcakes
> because of their concept of "tauchid" (please excuse the German
> spelling, i know that its spelled otherwise in English "wahid",
> whatever, but i forget). Tauchid is the essence of islam. Tauchid is the
> reason why musselmen hate the west (us). In the West we have this
> plurality,  social life here, private life there, religion here,
> government there and so forth. Not so for the musselman, there is only
> one thing, islam (tauchid). Europe had this tauchid brain damage in the
> Dark Ages, it was called
>
>                               "Consensus fidelium"
>
> See, goddamit. I don't care about religion or tauchid or moslems and
all
> this bullshit. But they keep attacking us. This is just a waste of time.
> lets go back to linux, damit.
> Eric
>
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