[Tfug] Need advice - consumer fraud caught on a WiFi adapter
Choprboy
choprboy at dakotacom.net
Sat Dec 6 04:08:24 MST 2008
On Friday 05 December 2008 22:59, Jim March wrote:
> Guys, this is a wild one...
[snip]
> [jim at critter ~]$ lsusb
> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 14b2:3c27 Atheros Communications Inc
[snip]
> So I google "Fedora 10" with the device ID: "14b2:3c27"...and I get
> links like this:
[snip]
> ...telling me that the device ID refers to an rt2870 chipset - which
> in turn can't broadcast.
[snip]
> Uh huh. OK. What we have here is fraud. A Netgear USB WiFi device
> that says right on the box "Atheros" was $50. Somebody set up this
> cheapo card to be a fake Atheros device.
... Unfortunately, I think you are going to be out of luck unless it actually
says "Atheros" on the box. Ignoring the fact that many devices are
manufactured under different names, many finished products of the same name
use different underlying components. You can't explicitly rely on lsusb to
tell you the truth either. In this case, I believe it has outright lied to
you!
In this case, it looks as though the lsusb hardware id list is incorrect
(contact the maintainer Stephen J. Gowdy <gowdy at slac.stanford.edu>). The
usb.ids file has manufacturer ID 14b2 listed as "Atheros"... but Atheros
already has 2 other manufacturer IDs listed:
0cf3 Atheros Communications, Inc.
0001 AR5523
0002 AR5523 (no firmware)
0003 AR5523
0004 AR5523 (no firmware)
0005 AR5523
0006 AR5523 (no firmware)
168c Atheros Communications
0001 AR5523
0002 AR5523 (no firmware)
There the product IDs appear to match with ARxxxx Atheros chipsets. The 14b2
manufacturer ID, on the other hand, is shown with completely different known
product IDs:
14b2 Atheros Communications Inc
3a93 USB WLAN Device
3c02 C54RU WLAN
3c22 C54RU
What is a "C54RU" usb wifi device??? A Conceptronic device which uses Ralink
RTxxxx based chipsets http://www.conceptronic.net/ (look thru the FAQ and
support downloads... its Ralink stuff). So it looks like someone submitted
a "14b2" manufacturer ID as Atheros to the list maintainer and he published
it... but that is not correct. A manufacturer ID of 14b2 should
be "Conceptronic", which may be sold under a couple different names including
Airlink101.
I would suggest that you do a "lsusb -v" on the device again, check
the "iManufacturer" field, which I believe is a text string from the device
itself. The standard lsusb output is just a match of the manufacturer/product
IDs to the usb.ids file. So like I said, I think your out of luck....
A couple days ago, I voted in the Slashdot poll "Just a handful of bug
reports, but boy were they good!".... guess I was right.
Adrian
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