[Tfug] Another OT Optics Question
Hubert M Bath
bathhm at laposadagv.net
Mon Aug 4 08:33:05 MST 2008
More light (pun intended) is shed on the rainbow problem by the
Wikipedia article at http://tinyurl.com/6k29y. Apparently my
understanding of what is going on is about 400 years behind that of
Descartes, who had the thing pretty well doped out in 1637.
Regards, Hu Bath
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Hubert M Bath wrote:
> Bexley Hall wrote:
>> OK, zero-th order understanding of how rainbows manifest
>> themselves... :>
>>
>> Inceident ray comes back ~40 degrees refracted (and reflected).
>> So, can I think of rainbow as a "conic section" in a cone with
>> a 42 degree apex?
>
> The 42 degrees applies to red light, and 40 degrees to violet, the
> inside of the "primary" rainbow. These angles apply no matter the height
> of the sun. Only if the sun is at the horizon, and sun's rays therefore
> parallel to the earth's surface does the rainbow appear as a semicircle
> --with its center at the horizon. If the sun is higher, the rainbow
> center is below the horizon and the rainbow less than a full semicircle.
> If the sun is not so low, the rainbow moves down, so that its center
> is below the horizon, rather than at it.
>> And, the apparent "diameter" of the rainbow is a function
>> of how far the water is from the observer? E.g., a rainbow
>> thrown from the mist of a gargen hose would appear to have a much
>> smaller diameter than one from water vabor many miles distant.
>
> I think that the *angular* diameter remains the same, tho, obviously,
> the actual refraction-reflection-refraction is occurring much closer
> than if the drops were from a distant rainstorm. And, because the sun
> is presumably 'way above the horizon, the the arc of the spraybow would
> be less than a semicircle. In fact, if the sun is more than 42 degrees
> above the horizon, a rainbow is impossible (because its "center" is more
> than 42 degrees below the horizon.)
>> (I'm not looking for "6 decimal places", here... just a crude
>> understanding of the geometry involved :> )
>>
>> Thx!
>> --don
>>
>>
> Regds, Hu Bath
>
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