[Tfug] Accidental extra netbook computer

Matthew T. Eskes meskes at gmail.com
Fri Aug 1 13:58:50 MST 2008


I would count that as a major score then. Their loss for you trying to be
honest.  ;)

 

Matt

 

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Matthew T. Eskes

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From: tfug-bounces at tfug.org [mailto:tfug-bounces at tfug.org] On Behalf Of Jude
Nelson
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:54 PM
To: bexley401 at yahoo.com; Tucson Free Unix Group
Subject: Re: [Tfug] Accidental extra netbook computer

 

Well, I e-mailed NewEgg last Tuesday, and they still haven't e-mailed me the
UPS tag I'm supposed to stick on the box.  If they aren't quick about it,
I'll be back in Arizona before they send me the correct tag (and they think
I live in North Carolina).  Well, I tried.

Regards,
Jude

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Bexley Hall <bexley401 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Contact the shipper.  *They* have to do the work, not
> you.
> > You shouldn't have to "pay" (time/money)
> for their
> > mistake.
> >
> > When I've been in similar situations, they've
> sent a
> > UPS/FedEx
> > guy out with a box to pick it up (on one occasion, a
> > freight
> > company came out to crate an item).
> >
> > If it is a *private* individual who has mistakenly
> sent
> > something
> > to me, I try to contact them.  Depending on their
> > "attitude",
> > I may take the time to box it up for them and run it
> to
> > the Post
> > Office *if* they send me prepaid postage.  On one
> > occasion, I
> > even drove an item to the original shipper.
> >
> > OTOH, if they act outraged or inconvenienced and
> expect
> > *me* to
> > bust my ass to cover their blunder,
>
> Does this really happen?

Yes!  I had one lady *tell* me that I chould drive it
over to her since she was "only a few miles down the road".
(i.e., in *her* mind, it was just as easy for me to
drive it *to* her as it would be for me to drive it to
the Post Office.)


> If after all that, were anyone to question your motives,
> (even if you kept it) I would call them a dumb ass.

People are amazingly demanding.  I once purchased 5 pounds
of "super colossal shrimp" (i.e. 5 per pound) and a couple
of pounds of crab meat (I stuff the shrimp with crab meat
prior to baking).  When I was told the bill was $22, I just
smiled and said "what's wrong with this picture?".

The owner of the store got all pissy and effectively accused
me of being disreputable.  I just pointed to the 5 pounds of
shrimp ($12/pound, at that time) and the 3 pounds of crab meat
(I think about $7/pound) and *then* pointed at the total on
the cash register.

I got neither an *apology* nor a "Thank You" for catching
his $60 error (in *my* favor)


> > I reward their
> > ungratitude
> > by dropping the item in the trash.  (i.e., *I*
> didn't
> > benefit
> > from the transaction -- removes any opportunity for
> > questioning
> > your motives:
>
> If this were to occur... what a waste that would be.
> Gratituously trashing a new and useful piece of equipment
> designed for FOSS out of some "moral" sense of,
> "At least *I* didn't benefit from it."

Well, for *me* it works quite well.  I never question
whether or not I subconciously/deliberately didn't go
that extra mile just so I could RATIONALIZE keeping
an item for myself.

Of course, *your* moral compass may be set differently...


> All the fossil fuel created millions of years ago who
> perished that ultimately created the plastic used in the
> case... Wasted. All of the brainpower, effort, energy and
> pollution generated to produce the item.... Wasted.

No, all that is "wasted" is the material and energy used to
produce that *one* unit.  And, that assumes you dispose of
it unwisely.


> If in a similar scenario, and the OP were inclined to trash
> the item, I would recommend to donate the item to a charity
> instead. (but not to World Care)

Donate it to a battered woman;s shelter, etc.  WorldCare
gets *thousands* of computers each year.  You're far better
off giving it to someone with an actual *need*.


> > "Was I uncooperaive just so I could *keep* this
> > item for myself?")
>
> GOd forbid!

What do *you* do when a package of *cash* gets delivered
to your front door by mistake?  (I mean thousands of dollars)
What direction does your compass point?


> > I'll confess my tolerance for accommodating
> people's
> > blunders
> > has fallen precipitously in the past decade.  If *you*
> > (shipper)
> > can't be bothered with this item, then *I*
> (unintended
> > recipient)
> > can't be bothereed, either!
> >
> > <shug>
>
> Do you do things where you rely on a team, or largely by
> yourself?

Both.  My products don't see the light of day without a lot
of teamwork.  On the other hand, I have no problem relying
on individuals for their particular talents, unquestioned.
Some things teams just can't do well; other things, individuals
can't do well.






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