[Tfug] ubuntu

[John Mc]

I second this opinion. I find it difficult to comprehend how you can spend so much time and effort whining about the bad experiences you've had with Linux -- while you are a college student. If you spent as much effort trying to solve your problems as you spend complaining on this list then you wouldn't have as many problems. But then you would be giving up on your efforts to validate your helplessness as somehow, not your fault.

We all feel helpless at times. But we all get over it by solving some more problems. Stop wallowing in your helplessness. Get your needed validation by saying yes to those questions in life. If you want someone to hold your hand then find an overly empathic husband.


William Stott wrote:
Why aren't more people using Linux? Because they fear change.

Your excuse for not getting your ideas off the ground using Linux as the kernel of choice? Because you choose to complain about the mainstream, bitch about the alternative, and do nothing to progress or improve your own knowledge of either. Nothing, unbelievable to you and most people considered as end users, "just works" without some work involved. This is why your ideas will never make it to fruition.

I am under the impression that you have no intention to find a solution, but rather that you have found the perfect scenario to use as a catalyst to sway people on this list to confirm that there is just nothing out that meets your needs. If this is not the case, then why do you waste more effort complaining about Linux and its many distributions then you spend learning what you need to complete your objectives. This entire thread is a joke, and I feel I have to comment on it because of my initial involvement.  Will


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Huh? What does the proliferation and decentralization of information on the internet have to do with linux? I guess I missed something...

How can you say that linux is becoming more complex? I remember the first time I tried it about 10 years ago (RedHat 6.x) and fighting for two weeks to stop the desktop from wobbling and flickering before giving up. Today I recommend it to family and friends that are not technically inclined.

Which websites specifically are making you bewildered? Note that IMO websites are not always a replacement for a good book on a topic.

sitkaa wrote:
Which only makes the point again that linux is evolving into greater complexity, not greater ease. Looking over these numerous websites with their dialect and allusions is more than just convoluted, it is bewildering. Again, this thread started with a question, "Why aren't more people using linux?", and the answer is here. So is the solution.

Quoting Andrew Ayre <andy at britishideas.com>:
Evidence of what Claude described is everywhere on the internet. For example the multitude of PC "how to" sites, individual blogs, multiple news sites, etc. These are all tied together with search engines and rich hyperlinks. For example blog postings referring to other blog postings, slashdot, digg, etc.  Andy

sitkaa wrote:
the age of the centralized information/publication repository has passed. Perhaps I am too old school, but that is hard to wrap my mind around. How can you develop a system, no matter how distributed, that doesn't have an organizational theme, and expect it to work easily/efficiently?

Last night here at the U. a bunch of people with bicycles gathered and milled about. I asked someone who organized this event, to which the reply that no one did. It just happened. And it continues to happen every Tuesday night at 8ish. I hung around awhile to observe the process. Someone eventually shouted out to the crowd that had a path that they were going, and to follow them. The crowd followed this person who took the lead.

I think that a central organizational theme is needed, no matter how loose the association, if decisions are to be made. For instance, (Mr. Linus?) acts as a benevolent dictator. The real question (for me) is how to organize the themes. I don't have the technical know how to lead such a project, but I think it would be useful, even if outdated in modality.
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