[Tfug] Meeting Room

[Harry McGregor]

Hi,

The TCS/TFUG issues have gone on for about as long as TCS and SLUG/TFUG
have existed.

We have some crossover between the two groups, but not much...

TFUG = Disorganized, anarchistic, help when/where you can group

TCS = fully organized, member "supported", and basically "older" group.

The two are like oil and water, they only mix if you add a little
vinegar and shake them up a hell of a lot.


Shawn Nock wrote:
> joealwine at juno.com wrote:
> > The Tucson Computer Society has a meeting room!
> > Check calendar at www.aztcs.org for dates and times. Most of the
> time the room is not being used. Membership is required!
>
> Hmm... $45 per person, per year. For a room. Pretty steep price. How
> about our new "members" wanting to bring a box in once in a while for a
> little help. Are we to be the "geek squad" / fundraisers for TCS? I'd
> feel like a giant tool...

This is been tried before, TCS even stated up a Linux special interest
group...

> > We have a projector already set up for presentations.
> > We need to upgrade out Qwest DSL (256) to higher speed and install
> wireless, but we will be doing this soon.
>
> Slow internet... That'll make those net installs painful.
>
BBLabs (not simply bits) has been able to help us with that before (one
site only had a DSL line, and they provided a 10Mbit wireless link for
the meetings for us).

> > You can bring your food and drinks (no Beer).
>
> Why no beer? Is TCS a dry club? So far, I'm not sold on this TCS idea.
>
Like the U of A campus, and many other sites, it's a liability issue. 
If you let people drink on our premsis, you are considered legally
responsible for what they do when you leave.

I don't drink (much if any), and I don't like these rules, but $ talk.

> > Quiet, except when Luke's is playing their music real loud.
>
> Hmm... Consider an alternate marketing tactic, like lying.
>
Lukes, playing the music too loud?  But good food :)

> > Tucson Computer Society needs more members, and members who can fill
> the positons of President and Vice President to keep club in operation!
> > Everything is already set up, just need more people with energy and
> desire to keep this organization going.
> > This is an opportunity to increase knowledge of Linux in the community.
>
> Explain to me how our renting a room once a month for too much money
> would be "an opportunity to increase knowledge of Linux in the
> community". At best we'd increase knowledge of Linux in the community
> willing to pay $45 dollars for the privilege.
>
> > So, how many TFUGers would be willing to pay the $45.00 per year
> membership?
>
> Very few, I'd imagine. Several people have already mentioned alternative
> sites that sound better. The advantages of TCS membership (that I can
> find on the website) are pretty limited: reduced price for classes
> (which probably, like your society, seem to favor the windows learning
> crowd), membership on the listserv, a newsletter, and this room.
>
> I get too many newsletters, I am on too many listservs, so I personally
> don't think I could get $45 a year out of the whole deal.
>
> > You could spend more than this at one or two of the bar meetings.
>
> You are right, I could spend that much on beer! That does sound like a
> great alternative to the TCS room. Thanks!
>
> But seriously: We need a room not a pitch for your club. It (correct me
> if I am wrong) looks like a windows support group. Seriously, there are
> several people on the TFUG list who work for the U, any one of us could
> get this done.
>
Sans boze, it could be done.  Heck I have hosted a few TFUG meetings in
ENRB on campus.

Between getting married (almost 3 years now :) ), and having our first
kid on the way (due any time now), I really have not had much extra time
for TFUG....


                                              Harry

> I may sound pissy above, but I don't like unsolicited spam during my
> lunch break. Last time I checked this was a tfug list, I am pretty sure
> I didn't pay for the privilege of being on the TCS one.
>
> Peace out,
>
> Shawn

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