[Tfug] SUV [OT] gas

Wed Sep 20 05:24:20 MST 2006

Brian Masur wrote:
> Have you 
> ever heard of a babysitter?  
Ah!  A babysitter!  There's a cost savings for you!
> Make more frequent trips to the store and buy 
> less each time on your way to or from wherever else you don't really need to 
> be going (or don't, I hate seeing your brats in stores)...  
Ok, 2 points - more frequent trips means more stop & go (along with 
engine starting/stopping) means more gas.  What kind of an argument is 
that? 

And, you know what?  Maybe my "brats" hate seeing you in the store too.
> If you're 7' 
> tall just slide the seat back and lean the seat back and you'll fit.  The 
> cheaper gas is the more expensive it is, more expensive gas gives you 
> incentive to drive/pollute less.  I hope to see some of the BMW7 hydrogen 
> cars around here soon.
>   
BMW7 hydrogen cars will catch on instantly for the vast majority of 
not-so-rich Tucsonians, I'm sure.
> While this might seem slightly irrelevant to some regarding TFUG, i say 
> similar things to people who keep insisting on using windows or macOS, kde 
> or gnome, work harder and lose the fat.
>   
Why does everyone insist on losing the "fat" in desktops?  Perhaps some 
people happen to like eye candy and have the cycles to spare for it?  
Maybe they bought those extra cycles so they could enjoy the eye candy?  
Maybe it's more about choice and less about telling people what *you* 
think they should be doing? 

Aren't you the one looking for an alternative to Squirrelmail with AJAX 
features preferred?  Isn't AJAX "fat"?  I'm confused.
> 19.7% of gas price goes to government tax.  Isn't it funny how our laws 
> state that we can't include tax in the price of anything on stickers, 
> labels, but in GAS it's not mentioned separately?
>   
Most gas signs I've seen say "Including Tax" on the price.  That sounds 
like "mentioning it separately" to me. 
> Our gov taxing the bad things we use is incentive for us to not use it.  The 
> income the gov gets from those taxes is incentive for them to keep it going. 
>   Where is the incentive to sponsor renewable resources?  Who really owns 
> Ford, GM, etc.?
>   
Wait, I thought Ford, GM, etc. owned the gov't?  And do you really want 
the gov't deciding what is good or bad for you to use and providing 
incentives through taxation that encourages you to do the gov't's 
bidding?  Not me, thanks.

Guess what?  I'm 5'10" and drive a 4 dr. 4x4 Nissan Frontier.  I use 
it.  I own a house and making trips to the local hardware store or plant 
nursery with *my own* truck saves me tons of money in delivery costs.  I 
also use it recreationally.  I had a 2WD Nissan before this and it got 
better mileage, but it sucked in the snow - I mean, it was quite scary.  
Well, I live in Philly now, so I'm quite happy to have a vehicle that 
both myself and my wife and "brats" can be safe in.  I'm sorry you have 
issues with this.

</rant>

Benjamin Krein
www.superk.org
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>> From: keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: Tucson Free Unix Group <tfug at tfug.org>
>> To: Tucson Free Unix Group <tfug at tfug.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Tfug] SUV
>> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:28:25 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> I have the equivalent of the Ford Escape, a Chev Tracker.  I get 24mpg 
>> which was ok in Tucson with lower gas prices in 2002.  I think gas was 
>> $1.65/gal - does that sound right?
>>
>> In Phoenix I drive 4 times a much and gas is 2 times as much.  I'm hoping 
>> for a 40+mpg replacement.  While not a tall man I am heavy.  I do not like 
>> the cars that cause me to stoop to sit in.
>>
>> I did not realize you were 6'8''.  That does limit your options.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>> bigj at flatwan.net wrote: I agree we need change. I however get 18.6 mpg with 
>> my '05 Nissan Titan
>> 5.6 liter V8 on mostly highway driving to and from work. The room I have
>> in that 4 door truck cannot be found in any economical car.
>>
>> I also own a '01 Ford Escape which gets better gas mileage and I can
>> barely fit myself, 2 kids in car seats and their associated baby
>> paraphenelia.
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>>
>>     
>>> I think the auto makers can do a better job.  We can still have a 
>>>       
>> roomie,
>>     
>>> more efficient, and smaller vehicle.
>>>
>>> I think you will agree we do need a change.  If you are driving one of
>>> those 10mpg SUV's you pay over $7.00 one way.  That's $75.00/week just 
>>>       
>> to
>>     
>>> get to work and back home.  Ouch!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bigj at flatwan.net wrote: I don't consider myself a fat ass because I work
>>> 30 miles from home and my
>>> kids can't fit on the back of my bike. I'm 6'8" and little ricers ain't
>>> going to cut it for me and my family so I'm forced to buy something 
>>>       
>> large.
>>     
>>> I do agree with you that this situation blows more than Nicole Richie. I
>>> hope they catch the POS.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I can't believe it.  I've chatted with lilo a few times on freenode a
>>>> long
>>>> time ago.  This is terrible news.  Freenode just won't be the same
>>>> without
>>>> lilo...  :'(  I always cringe when I find out about bicycle accidents.
>>>> My
>>>> uncle died from a very similar circumstance.  I cycle a decent amount
>>>> myself, and I'm always worried about being run over.  I seriously doubt
>>>> a
>>>> helmet will help me much in such an incident but it has to be better
>>>> than
>>>> nothing so I never ride without it.  It's just not fair, we're the
>>>> better
>>>> people in these times for not polluting and getting exercise, while 
>>>>         
>> some
>>     
>>>> fat
>>>> ass is driving an SUV.  I voted yes on issues 1 and 2 on May 16th
>>>> because
>>>> part of the plan is the add many miles of bike lanes, among other
>>>> reasons.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> From: "Bowie J. Poag"
>>>>> Reply-To: Tucson Free Unix Group
>>>>> To: Tucson Free Unix Group
>>>>> Subject: [Tfug] Rob Levin died..
>>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 21:09:33 -0700
>>>>> I didn't know him all that well, but Rob and I kept in touch over the
>>>>> years. Even helped him out a bit when things were tight. Anyway, seems
>>>>> Rob was in a hit-and-run on the 11th while riding his bicycle. Alot of
>>>>> you guys probably have never heard of him, but Rob Levin was probably
>>>>> one of the most sorely underappreciated behind-the-scenes guys in the
>>>>> Linux community. Anyone who has anything even remotely serious to do w/
>>>>> regard to OSS development meets on Freenode, and Freenode would have
>>>>> been anarchy without Rob. He never made a dime off of running it, and
>>>>> didn't want to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saddest part is, practically no one knew him, and even fewer people
>>>>> cared.
>>>>>           
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