[Tfug] Somebody else's firewll

[William Stott]

I just became a Cox Cable / Internet / Phone service user. They were
okay with using a router, switch, etc...and they were even ok with me
using my own PBX. They said that the only trigger they have for
questioning traffic is bandwidth consumption, aside from registered
complaints for misuse.

Thanks,

William Stott

-----Original Message-----
From: tfug-bounces at tfug.org [mailto:tfug-bounces at tfug.org] On Behalf Of
JD Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:18 AM
To: erich1 at dakotacom.net; Tucson Free Unix Group
Subject: Re: [Tfug] Somebody else's firewll

Is that still an issue? I know it used to be, but I was pretty sure
the cable companies had relaxed about that lately given the
proliferation of wap/firewall/switches and the fact that so many
households have more than one box.

The last time I actually had to speak with cox, they asked if I was
using a wap/switch, and I said yes. They didn't seem to care. Also,
I've never felt too guilty about this since I'm only occupying 1 IP
address and technically, there really is only one computer attached to
the network. Legally speaking, I would guess you could argue that all
the local boxes are just sharing data, but all the external traffic is
still just going to and from 1 machine (even if that machine is a
firewall device type thing).

I could see them wanting to charge more if you use just a switch or
hub on the modem becuase you would need more global IP addresses.
JDR

On 7/12/05, ewf <erich at dakotacom.net> wrote:
> As a secondary issue,
>                  The DSL/Cable Co wants to charge you per box that you
> connect to their modem.
> can you tell them you're connecting "one" box that has firewall and
> gateway for the other
> boxes in back of it? I'm the only user of several boxes so my packet
> traffic should look
> like a single user anyway.
> 
> 
> Erich
> 
> Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
> 
> >On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:34, ewf  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Do  you  trust it?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I always use my own, I use IPcop (http://ipcop.org) with a few
tweaks.
> >
> >
> >
> >>      I'm talking about the average consumer who wants to subscribe
to
> >>cable or DSL. They provide a box that comes with the installation,
(or
> >>so I understand), that stops unauthorized connections to your
box(es)
> >>on the other side.
> >>
> >>      I'm building up a box in my shop right now and I wonder if
it's
> >>worth the effort to install two NIC's such that I have a barrier
> >>between me and the cable/DSL company.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Absolutely.  NO questions asked.  I would not expose a non-firewall
machine of
> >any type directly to the Internet without a firewall in place.
Dedicated box
> >when there's a LAN inside the connection.
> >
> >For Windows laptops I use either ZoneAlarm or Outpost, what is there
similar for
> >Linux?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Angus Scott-Fleming
> >GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> >1-520-290-5038 / fax 1-208-248-3124
> >+-----------------------------------+
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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