[Tfug] OT: Hacker Slang

[Anthony Steckman]

I learned "et-see" and "F-stab" and "vie" by listening to others who 
belong to this list. As each of the three people in mind have more real 
world work experience with computers than I, I immediately adopted those 
pronunciations.

Incidentally, this highlights one of the benefits of belonging to user 
groups. :-) I never would have heard any of those words spoken if I 
hadn't attended various UG gatherings.

I suppose other means to the same end would include going to school or 
getting a job... I guess I sidestepped those land mines!

:-D

Jeremy Rogers wrote:
> This reminds me alot of jargon I've apparently been pronouncing
> wrong or at least differently all my life.  I've always 
> pronounced kludge and others that are "sorta" real words 
> correctly.  Some, I just had plain wrong like tex and latex (yep, its not rubber). But it seems like there are huge variations in things
> like: (caps means say the letter name)
> 
> /etc -- is it "et-see" or "E-T-C" or "etcetera"
> fstab -- is it "F-stab" or "F-S-tab"
> vi -- "vie" or "V-I"  (please don't flame -- I've read the official stuff)
> 
> lots of others I can't think of now, but the point is, as geeks, I think many of us learn slang and jargon by seeing it written instead of hearing it verbally.  This leaves much ambiguity in pronunciation.  I even think much pronunciation is very regionalized since those times we do get to hear something spoken, its with poeple from our neck of the woods.  (I know many things are said differently here than at MichTech, I just can't remember what it was I heard at the last meeting I attended that caught my ear.)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	tfug-bounces at tfug.org on behalf of Eduardo Bernal
> Sent:	Tue 12/2/2003 11:01 AM
> To:	Tucson Free Unix Group
> Cc:	
> Subject:	Re: [Tfug] OT: Hacker Slang
> Josh Miller wrote:
> It's "klooj", without the "d" sound. Those pronouncing it like "mud"
> have probably only read it
> (like the people who pronounce "paradigm" as "pair-uh-dig-um") or
> learned from someone who only read it.
> 
> 
> 
>>Venturing even further OT, how do you all pronounce "kludge"?
>>
>>I've heard it like "kloodge", and also rhyming with "mud"
>>
>>-Josh
>>
>>On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 11:14, Quag7 wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 11:11, Jim Secan wrote:
>>>
>>>>At 10:58 AM 12/02/03 -0700, TR wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>9) kluge
>>>>>
>>>>>used    Clever, either/both an elegant solution or an ugly hack to some
>>>>>problem.
>>>>
>>>>Odd, I've never seen/used this as anything but a derogatory comment,
>>>>perhaps with a twinge of "but there's no other choice."  Not that I haven't
>>>>generated my share of kluges - these typically arise when there's no time
>>>>for elegance, or even testing.
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>Well you know, if your dam springs a leak, and you stick your finger in
>>>the hole to prevent a watery apocalypse, that's a kluge.  Seeing as how
>>>you stopped the said watery apocalypse, it's hard to consider that
>>>derogatory.  Of course, to your point, a cement plug would probably be
>>>better.
>>>
>>>  -C
>>>
>>>