[Tfug] YO BOWIE:

David C. Lorenzo tfug@tfug.org
Mon Sep 9 16:24:01 2002


Oops, forgot to add that I do have an 8-port NetGear hub connected to the
second ethernet card in the router.  So my configuration is as follows:

D-Link Cable modem <--> FreeSCO router <--> NetGear 8-port hub <--> 4
other computers.

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David C. Lorenzo
University of Arizona
College of Agriculture
  Agriculture Education
  Office of Arid Lands Studies
Support Systems Analyst
http://ag.arizona.edu/~cory
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, David C. Lorenzo wrote:

>
> Knowledge _IS_ power!!  I didn't have the money to buy a router, so I made
> one this last weekend using my wife's old system (pentium 133, 48MB ram,
> no harddrive) and FreeSCO linux.  Runs from a floppy disk/hardrive,
> includes a built-in web server that serves up a nice simple router
> administration page (behind the cable modem, safe & secure from the world)
> configured with NAT and DHCP.  Supports up to 3 NIC cards and 2
> modems...I've got 4 computers on my network.  FreeSCO is very easy to
> setup, you just need some knowledge of how networks work.  The
> documentation is pretty good and the interactive instructions are great!
>
> -Cory-
>
> ******************************
> David C. Lorenzo
> University of Arizona
> College of Agriculture
>   Agriculture Education
>   Office of Arid Lands Studies
> Support Systems Analyst
> http://ag.arizona.edu/~cory
> ******************************
>
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Bowie J. Poag wrote:
>
> > I dont have Cox HSI... I have Comcast HSI.
> >
> > It shouldn't matter anyway. "We don't support Linux" is not the same as
> > "Linux doesnt work with it"..... You can have a friggin Atari ST on your
> > end, and have broadband access with it.  Your cable provider cannot see past
> > your router. On your side of the fence, you can set up whatever you like.
> > For example:
> >
> >  Comcast/Cox/Whatever--------> *Cable Modem*<---Your Broadband
> > Router<-----Several of your computers
> >
> > To get past the bozo factor, just tell em youre running Windows. It makes
> > absolutely no fucking difference at all what kind of machine you have on
> > your end, but they'll throw a fit if you say Linux. Tell them what they want
> > to hear. Windows.
> >
> > Anyway, as I was saying....your computer will be talking with a router, not
> > to the cable modem. I have two laptops and a PC hooked up to a D-Link
> > Broadband Router, and the D-Link Broadband Router is connected to my cable
> > modem. All three of my machines have no fucking idea what a cable modem
> > is -- For all they know, the router is the thing giving them all the data
> > they ask for, while in reality, that router is pulling/pushing shit to the
> > cable modem in the background.
> >
> > I have a Toshiba PCX1100U cable modem.. Bought it from Best Buy here in
> > town.  Your setup may be different, but I suspect they all work the same
> > (DOCSIS is a nice standard) ....Anyway, here's how mine works -- The router
> > is what sends a DHCP request to your cable provider---NOT the cable modem.
> > Meanwhile, your PC sends a DHCP request to the router. The _router_ talks to
> > Comcast via the cable modem, and requests a DHCP address. The cable company
> > then provides your router with a real-world IP address, and the IP's of a
> > couple nameservers. Now your router knows how to talk to the outside world.
> > Meanwhile, your router is also doleing out DHCP leases to all the machines
> > you have plugged into it. At _no point_ in the process do any of your
> > computers even touch the cable modem. They talk exclusively with the router,
> > or with eachother. Period.  The router does the dirty work.
> >
> > So, with that knowledge, you can pat the bozo at Cox on the head, make his
> > life easier, and just tell him that youre running Windows. Theres no point
> > in arguing with the jackass. You'll just complicate things. Just know in the
> > back of your head that you could hook up a fuckin Dreamcast to your router
> > and have broadband access on it-- It makes no fucking difference at all what
> > kind of computer you have, or what OS is running on it. They cant see past
> > your router, and never will. Most broadband routers will even mask the MAC
> > address(es) of your computers, and replace them with its own MAC address,
> > just to fool the cable company into believing you have only one host
> > connected. :)
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bowie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "c tripp" <studio5ive@hotmail.com>
> > To: <tfug@tfug.org>
> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:58 PM
> > Subject: [Tfug] YO BOWIE:
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > hey $e*y:
> > >
> > > i forgot to ask you, since you we're saying you've got cox HSI at home--do
> > > you have the software (or url where to find it) relative to linux...?
> > >
> > > i was originally configured w/the vaio desktop i've got running ME, and
> > > getting through to cox support has been every bit as enjoyable as you
> > might
> > > expect.  i believe the tech that came out loaded the ME software directly
> > > from their site somewhere, but there is no indication of where to find it
> > at
> > > their commercial site.
> > >
> > > tripp
> > >
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