[Tfug] Maintainable free UNIX
Glenn Shannon
tfug@tfug.org
Wed Jul 31 18:58:01 2002
<shameless plug>
You could always check out SourceMage Linux (www.sourcemage.org) which
uses a Ports-like system, an apt-get style package manager (sorcery) and
is completely source-based.
</shameless plug>
Disclaimer: I am a developer of SourceMage. This opinion may be biased.
:)
Glenn
-----Original Message-----
From: tfug-admin@tfug.org [mailto:tfug-admin@tfug.org] On Behalf Of
Chris Hilton
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:31 PM
To: tfug@tfug.org
Subject: Re: [Tfug] Maintainable free UNIX
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:58:28 -0700
"Nicholas Esborn" <nick@netdot.net> wrote:
> I have to agree with Scott. FreeBSD is the most maintainable OS I
> have worked with. The ports tree has always been better than
> RPM-based Linux distributions, IMO, and portupgrade fills in all the
> functionality that Linux users might have been wishing for.
>
> But I think it's much more than just packaging systems. I think the
> BSDs(all three) have a more quality-oriented mindset. The "core team"
> system is basically a council of elders who are responsible for
> keeping the system internally consistent. Debian also has this
> mindset, but I think it suffers from the fragmentation of the GNU
> software base it draws from.
>
> Back to the ports tree, I find that it works much more often than not.
> Some statistics from freshports.org:
>
> Port count 7413
> Broken 95
> Forbidden 64
> new 24 hours 6
> new 48 hours 18
> new 7 days 37
> new fortnight 60
> new month 150
>
> Less than 2% of the ports are broken or forbidden, which is typical.
> Those numbers go down a bit around a major release.
>
> Linux has been, and will continue to be, the darling of open source.
> Linux has plowed a huge channel into the public's consciousness and
> commercial IT. Those are its chief contributions. Maintainability
> and maturity are best found with the BSDs.
>
> That aside, if Linux is the only option, then Debian is the only
> option.
>
> -nick
Well I've found similar functionality and ease of maintainance with
Gentoo linux. It uses a ports type system incorporating the ease of
portupgrade with even more versatility. It really does take that
argument away from the bsds. And I have found I can do everything with
Gentoo's system I am able to do with apt-get or dselect, though I'm no
expert on either of the deb tools.
-C-
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