[Tfug] Re: Newbie Follow-Up Question

[Harry McGregor]

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Tom Rini wrote:

> Yeap.  ~95% of the problems with woody usually are install.  The next 4%
> are ego or a package from unstable needing to be moved up, and the rest
> are actual bugs.  But having the installer not correctly install really
> is a problem.

The packages from unstable moving up, is more a problem with too slow than
too fast (ie apache), but I can see those problems too.

> > Well, the CD Snapshot two months ago did not have the problem...
>
> Yeah.  And then since woody will be stable, someone decided to make it
> attempt to install stable stuff.  And I'm almost positive there's a big
> thread on debian-devel or something about it too.

I will have to go and dig up the thread, it really gave me a few problems
with class on monday.  I wound up just having the class use the "edit
sources by hand" option, and type in the five lines of apt sources.

> It's always a trade-off.  If you can click a few buttons and get a setup
> that only needs minor changes for the "power" user, why not do it?  I
> just recently threw RH7.2 on a scrap disk for some work-related testing
> and it was kind of nice to click, click, ... wait ..., click and have a
> rather reasonable setup.  I think the post-woody installer is supposed
> to be easier for the average user to use.

pgi is looking rather good, I have made some test cds with it, still needs
some work, but it's promising.

Though it comes down to what you need to learn to do what you want to do.
I have a fair number of students a little upset that we are doing Xwindows
near the end of class.  Of course the first time I tought the class, we
did Xwindows first, and then the entire class was reading CNN, etc instead
of doing the lab they were supposed to.  To learn how to use Linux as a
server, you don't need a gui.  Heck, most of the time, my screen under KDE
is full of Eterms.

			Harry

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> Tom Rini (TR1265)
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